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Set in the immediate future, mankind visits Titan, moon of Saturn for the first time. A manned space station goes into orbit around the moon once every 4-5 hours. Actually there have been many people being sent all over the solar system. Some missions are solo. Without FTL and artificial gravity why is nudity prohibited in space, at all times? There is no policy on possession of adult materials or even engage in intimate activity, just no nudity strictly!
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Set in the immediate future, mankind visits Titan, moon of Saturn for the first time. A manned space station goes into orbit around the moon once every 4-5 hours. Actually there have been many people being sent all over the solar system. Some missions are solo. Without FTL and artificial gravity why is nudity prohibited in space, at all times? There is no policy on possession of adult materials or even engage in intimate activity, just no nudity strictly!
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Researching the basis of nudity prohibition in many countries should bear some fruit for you.
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The question is based on a false premise. I have seen the documentary Barbarella and can attest to the fact that nudity is in fact not only legal but even encouraged!
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Duplicate of Nudism in space: Why wear clothes anyway?
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Too many dangling parts while working on machinery could be hazardous.
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@pipe This question is asked on worldbuilding.SE, not reality.SE.
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Set in the immediate future, mankind visits Titan, moon of Saturn for the first time. A manned space station goes into orbit around the moon once every 4-5 hours. Actually there have been many people being sent all over the solar system. Some missions are solo. Without FTL and artificial gravity why is nudity prohibited in space, at all times? There is no policy on possession of adult materials or even engage in intimate activity, just no nudity strictly!
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Set in the immediate future, mankind visits Titan, moon of Saturn for the first time. A manned space station goes into orbit around the moon once every 4-5 hours. Actually there have been many people being sent all over the solar system. Some missions are solo. Without FTL and artificial gravity why is nudity prohibited in space, at all times? There is no policy on possession of adult materials or even engage in intimate activity, just no nudity strictly!
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Researching the basis of nudity prohibition in many countries should bear some fruit for you.
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The question is based on a false premise. I have seen the documentary Barbarella and can attest to the fact that nudity is in fact not only legal but even encouraged!
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Duplicate of Nudism in space: Why wear clothes anyway?
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Too many dangling parts while working on machinery could be hazardous.
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Researching the basis of nudity prohibition in many countries should bear some fruit for you.
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The question is based on a false premise. I have seen the documentary Barbarella and can attest to the fact that nudity is in fact not only legal but even encouraged!
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Duplicate of Nudism in space: Why wear clothes anyway?
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Too many dangling parts while working on machinery could be hazardous.
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@pipe This question is asked on worldbuilding.SE, not reality.SE.
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Researching the basis of nudity prohibition in many countries should bear some fruit for you.
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Researching the basis of nudity prohibition in many countries should bear some fruit for you.
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The question is based on a false premise. I have seen the documentary Barbarella and can attest to the fact that nudity is in fact not only legal but even encouraged!
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The question is based on a false premise. I have seen the documentary Barbarella and can attest to the fact that nudity is in fact not only legal but even encouraged!
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Duplicate of Nudism in space: Why wear clothes anyway?
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Too many dangling parts while working on machinery could be hazardous.
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Too many dangling parts while working on machinery could be hazardous.
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Housecleaning in Zero-G
Think through the amount of body hair and skin flakes a human sheds each week. On Earth, you take a vacuum cleaner or a mop. Still, fluff collects in hard-to-reach places. No big deal, really.
The combination of zero-g and artificial life support systems makes fluff a greater problem in space. The solution? Almost-full-body clothing and hair nets are worn just about everywhere, except in the bathroom and at the doctor's office. Those places have heavy-duty air filters which are cleaned more frequently.
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This is the right answer. When I think about it, spaceship crew would probably have to shave or depilate their whole bodies, to spare work for the air filters. When I see the amount of hair two people deposit in a household, a whole crew is going to shed an awful lot.
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Arthur C Clarke would just make full-body hairlessness a common practice amongst spacers :P
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While it is presumably implied, it could possibly be noted that space clothing should generally be fluffless.
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Good, but maybe should be less about dirt and more about the BIOHAZARD the crud/stains/etc represent. You can sanitize a toilet seat. Less so with cabin seats you spend hours in. FedEx-ing a new chair in involves rather a lot higher shipping fees. And disposal fees.
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Another important point: without underwear, fecal and urine microparticules will be sent floating around, which is bad for lungs.
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Spacesuits are compulsory
The human body is ill suited for leaving the confines of Earth. Spacesuits serve a variety of necessary functions in order for humans to operate in space like temperature regulation, providing an air supply, protection from solar radiation, etc. Those living or travelling in space long term have to be prepared to enter hard vacuum at any moment to effect repairs or modifications on the external surface of the spacecraft. Even the stripped down "casual wear" astronauts might don when not on shift would have common sense features deemed absolutely necessary like life sign monitoring, communications, distress beacons, etc.
Therefore you can go starkers if you want...under your spacesuit
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After a few decompression accidents killing a couple people, wearing a space suit whenever feasible might be a reasonable safety precaution. Especially when space suit technology got advanced enough that they are no longer as bulky as they are today.
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This also covers for any situation where a spaceship or space station section depressurizes unexpectedly - meteoroid? No problem, just seal off the section with the leak. The people in there can go around the outside and reenter via the airlock, because they're already wearing spacesuits as legally required, right?
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At this point, one wonders what the purpose of pressurized hulls is anyway. The outer hull would pretty much only be to keep stuff (and people) contained and to shield the crew from cosmic rays.
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– Gryphon
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@Gryphon heat transfer would be one. Heat does not transfer in a vacuum, and this will cause electrical failures in extremely hard to fix places. Electronics designed to work in space are made very, very differently.
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– Nelson
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@Gryphon it would give you a second layer of defense against accidental depressurisation. A suit might tear or malfunction. In an unpressurized einvironment, that might be lethal. Another reason is sound transfer. When you are in a pressurized environment, you can hear when your reactor cooling system makes strange rattling noises.
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1 - We're icky
There is a hygienic dimension to clothing. As mammals, especially placental mammals, we're always secreting and shedding something -- sweat, oil, hair, dead skin, and many other substances that are unnecessary and inadvisable to list.
The areas we cover up are notorious for making right messes, and even the more acceptable areas may be suspect due to sweat. This is exacerbated in low or zero-g environments due to the fact that these particles are free to detach from the body, float and get everywhere.
The very best case scenario is that the whole station will start to smell like old sweat, which probably won't be a problem for people who have been in microgravity long enough for their noses to stop smelling as well.
Worst case...well, there's lots of things you really don't want getting on your computer interfaces. Or in your food. It could even be microscopic particles, and those are just yummy.
You could bathe and shave constantly, but that's a bit of a waste of station resources and you're better off just wearing material that can catch all the gross mammalian materials and wash those in bulk.
At the very least, you'd wear something to cover the pubic area and that would narrow the problems down to sweat and stray body or head hairs. Everyone would look like they're at a topless beach party, but it would be enough for the majority of human cultures to consider "clothed".
2 - Protection
Space is pretty dangerous. Here you are floating in a tin can, far above [ gravitational reference body ]. Anything can happen; your body can be exposed to raw sunlight, gamma radiation (gamma rays from malicious sources can have devastating effects on crew), or even open vacuum. The human body doesn't really care for any of these, and so an advanced bodysuit of some kind would be preferred.
Furthermore, navigating a microgravity habitat is a constant gymnastics show. Astronauts launch and throw themselves off surfaces and try to catch bars and top themselves on other surfaces. If you miss, you're likely to collide with something or graze your body on some equipment. Something can poke your belly, scrape against your back or hit you right in the space nads. It's nice to have something to absorb at least some of that impact.
3 - Utility
Working on a space station requires versatility and high function. You'll need to carry tools and materials with you. To do this you'll need pockets, loops, velcro pads etc. It would also be highly beneficial if you were wearing some kind of harness; you can hook yourself to surfaces, brace yourself into places, and can easily go in and out of exercise equipment. The harness itself could also be a modular chassis for utility attachments, not unlike the H-harness that U.S. Marines wear.
Could you get by with just the modular harness and pocket belt? Eehhhh, maybe but the mental image at this point is getting pretty fetishistic. You can still go for it, man. It's your world, you're the creator.
4 - Comfort
I'm not gonna lie, walking around in just a birthday suit can be nice when nobody's around. But the feeling gets old, and it feels way nicer to have something soft and loose over your body. Robe, pajamas and T shirt, night gown, whatever orbits your spacecraft. Space stations aren't exactly known for being soft, warm and cuddly so wearing something to counter that can be a good idea.
5 - Fashion
Why navigate a space station in your birthday suit when there are so many other suits to choose from? Humans have always wanted to express themselves, and there's really no other universal way we do that than in what clothes we wear. It doesn't have to be anything fancy, though anything can happen. Anything from a simple T-shirt with an outdated reference from 2034 to a flashy yet functional station suit could work. How much clothing we decide to wear has varied over the millenia, yet most people from history would have agreed that people who had very little clothing were typically low status.
6 - Religious views
This one is pretty self-explanatory, isn't it?
7 - The Powers That Be say "NO"
Your astronauts of the Immediate Future may be progressively-minded, but Earth, that old world, is not. They also happen to be the ones funding your continued operation and survival. Your crew will very probably get to have some downtime where they can wear whatever they want, but in official broadcats and on receiving visitors, it's expected that they dress accordingly.
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Religious views? Where in the bible (or other holy book) does it say you must wear clothes? Note that I'm not an expert on the bible, so although the question is indended to be rhetorical, if such a directive exists I would be interested to know.
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@Bohemian the Bible usually describes nudity as shameful and degrading and related to sin. Some samples are Genesis 9:21; Exodus 20:26; 32:25; 2 Chronicles 28:19; Revelation 3:17; 16:15; 17:16 Wheres only a few occurrences depicted it as not sinful. Nudity tends to have the implication of sinfulness attached to it, due to the 'sin' of lust.
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Regarding utility - another problem in zero-G is getting stuck in the middle of a room. If the walls are out of reach, you need to have something you can throw to make yourself drift to the other side of the room. If you're wearing clothing, you'll always have something that you can throw in a pinch.
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@Bohemian Most religions are pretty clear about their followers being modest. What counts as "modest" is often left to the local culture though. The Adam and Eve story though is very clear that nakedness was something to be ashamed of - although they didn't have shame until they had a concept of sin, which is an interesting side quest into morality in its own right.
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@bohemian you’re asking for sources in the religious books that explicitly decry nudity. This answer doesn’t claim the books explicitly ban it, the answer claims that there are religious views around nudity, which is a perfectly accurate claim.
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If the future conquest of space follows the example of our recent creation of cyberspace, then advertising dollars will pay for a great deal of the infrastructure that is needed. Streaming coverage of everything extraterrestrial (except private bedrooms) might be a major part of future entertainment television; like reality television only on a grander scale.
Perhaps the sponsors of the Titan station are family oriented.
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Big Brother Space Station or Truman in Space?
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– nzaman
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This is a very interesting concept, but I think that the logical extension of it would be that most spacecraft would have a no-clothes policy.
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Don't think anyone else has mentioned this yet:
Heat
Perhaps not a full on reason for zero tolerance as such, but what about the fact you have to heat a spaceship?
Having your occupants in their own bundle of self-generated warmth means you don't have to heat the whole space as high as you would if everyone (or even one) person was nude. (Economical heating reason)
You could go as far as to say that some components on board need a cool (maybe sub zero) temperature to function properly and so low temps are a must. Perhaps as a safety feature in case of coolant containment leak everyone needs some sort of thermal protection.
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I can assure you that the components that need to be cold would be very well isolated from any areas under life support. But the idea of economy is a good one.
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Religion.
Historically, the most common reason for prescribed garments has been religion. These garments might be obvious to all and so symbolize common membership in the religion (e.g. head coverings). Some garments are not obvious and serve as a reminder of vows to the adherent of the religion. The Mormon temple garment is one of these.
A temple garment... is a type of underwear worn by adherents of the
Latter Day Saint movement after they have taken part in the endowment
ceremony. Garments are worn both day and night and are required for
any adult who previously participated in the endowment ceremony to
enter a temple. The undergarments are viewed as a symbolic reminder of
the covenants made in temple ceremonies and are seen as a symbolic
and/or literal source of protection from the evils of the world.
Your spacefarers are the member of a new religion - or maybe an old religion or remake of an old religion. It is lonely in space, and wearing the garment reminds spacefarers of their connection to something larger - their relationship with the divine powers of their religion, and with other members of their faith.
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I am surprised at downvotes. I wonder if people find this offensive? If so I apologize. It was not my intent to mock or make light of religious beliefs. I think religion could be helpful to space travelers just as it is to people here on the ground.
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When tagged with 'social-norms', religion is the default answer +1.
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Mormon magic underpants are said to be capable of protecting the wearer. I wonder if it could be used instead of an EVA suite. Any LDS astronauts want to test it out?
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You cannot make such a prohibition because basic sanitation and hygiene requirements require some degree of nudity at different times. See for example Skylab Shower.
In fact the requirements of space flight and relatively confined quarters essentially require that people engaged in space flights must be comfortable being unclothed at times around each other. Modesty is not worth the mass it costs and mass is the most important thing. Mass used in providing special privacy could be better used providing e.g. additional backup life support or something similar.
In an emergency do you want people worried about a ban on nudity or people who will act decisively and immediately ? Nudity should not be an issue for people in this line of work - practically speaking nothing should bother them. If they have to share crude sanitary facilities due to e.g. a breakdown, then that's what is required. No silly restrictions should get in the way of what is practical in space.
There is no policy on possession of adult materials or even engage in intimate activity, just no nudity strictly!
This actually makes no sense. Apart from anything else, no nudity isn't very reasonable when you're allowing intimate adult activity. Put crudely, if they can screw it makes no sense to even try and ban nudity.
The crew would almost certainly be chosen based on their psychological and cognitive balance as a team, with overlap of skills and the psychological ability to complement and replace each other. These people won't even notice nudity.
The idea is deeply flawed, IMO.
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Actually there are parts of the world where people do wear clothes at all times. I have trained in sport clubs where people showered in their underwear (ugh!), and there are religious groups who use a sheet with a hole when - um - procreating, to avoid physical contact... ugh again.
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@RedSonja "Parts of the world" and "in a confined space ship" are quite different things. From a practical point of view it's also worth saying that imposing a lack of nudity on people doesn't prevent anything except the nudity - they're still going to do all the "sins". I would be astonished if the "sheet with a hole" rule can be enforced in any realistic way, so what's the point ?
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– StephenG
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Well, if the spaceship was run by religious nutters they would at least try.
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This answer is predicated upon the assumption that the only reason not to be nude is religious prudishness rather than clothing having any practical purpose.
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@StephenG Your answer is based on clothing in space being 100% due to "modesty" to the point of being outright impractical (aka prudishness for supposedly moral reasons) . This is an incorrect assumption. Clothing is not a completely useless waste of mass but has purely practical functions which have nothing whatsoever to do with "modesty". Just read some of the other answers if you cannot yourself conceive of any purpose of clothing in microgravity.
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Perhaps teenagers and/or children are on most if not all missions. This may be a part of a high-school class, a trade-school program, or even a menial job opportunity for teenagers (even space stations might need cooks, janitors, or the like). For the sake of avoiding moral or legal issues with underage individuals being exposed to, or exposing themselves, a zero-tolerance nudity for anyone at all times might make sense.
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"even space stations might need cooks, janitors, or the like" Considering the mass penalty brought about by a human, especially one that you want to keep alive, if OP's space travellers use anything even remotely similar to our current propulsion technologies, there's going to be a massive pressure for everyone to do a little of everything, from advanced scientific experiments to cooking and cleaning.
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Others have mentioned the issues with the human body leaving dead skin, hair, sweat and the like everywhere, but there is actually a great example of this problem on earth: Nudists.
Nudists are generally expected to carry a small towel or similar to sit on, because a lack of underwear creates hygiene issues. Also as people get older they tend to leak more.
It's somewhat manageable on earth where there are a limited number of places people are likely to sit and they can be cleaned, but even so towels are often mandatory. In space, with low/zero gravity, cramped quarters...
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Housecleaning in Zero-G
Think through the amount of body hair and skin flakes a human sheds each week. On Earth, you take a vacuum cleaner or a mop. Still, fluff collects in hard-to-reach places. No big deal, really.
The combination of zero-g and artificial life support systems makes fluff a greater problem in space. The solution? Almost-full-body clothing and hair nets are worn just about everywhere, except in the bathroom and at the doctor's office. Those places have heavy-duty air filters which are cleaned more frequently.
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This is the right answer. When I think about it, spaceship crew would probably have to shave or depilate their whole bodies, to spare work for the air filters. When I see the amount of hair two people deposit in a household, a whole crew is going to shed an awful lot.
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Arthur C Clarke would just make full-body hairlessness a common practice amongst spacers :P
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– Ruadhan
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While it is presumably implied, it could possibly be noted that space clothing should generally be fluffless.
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– Gnudiff
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Good, but maybe should be less about dirt and more about the BIOHAZARD the crud/stains/etc represent. You can sanitize a toilet seat. Less so with cabin seats you spend hours in. FedEx-ing a new chair in involves rather a lot higher shipping fees. And disposal fees.
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Another important point: without underwear, fecal and urine microparticules will be sent floating around, which is bad for lungs.
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Housecleaning in Zero-G
Think through the amount of body hair and skin flakes a human sheds each week. On Earth, you take a vacuum cleaner or a mop. Still, fluff collects in hard-to-reach places. No big deal, really.
The combination of zero-g and artificial life support systems makes fluff a greater problem in space. The solution? Almost-full-body clothing and hair nets are worn just about everywhere, except in the bathroom and at the doctor's office. Those places have heavy-duty air filters which are cleaned more frequently.
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This is the right answer. When I think about it, spaceship crew would probably have to shave or depilate their whole bodies, to spare work for the air filters. When I see the amount of hair two people deposit in a household, a whole crew is going to shed an awful lot.
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Arthur C Clarke would just make full-body hairlessness a common practice amongst spacers :P
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– Ruadhan
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While it is presumably implied, it could possibly be noted that space clothing should generally be fluffless.
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– Gnudiff
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Good, but maybe should be less about dirt and more about the BIOHAZARD the crud/stains/etc represent. You can sanitize a toilet seat. Less so with cabin seats you spend hours in. FedEx-ing a new chair in involves rather a lot higher shipping fees. And disposal fees.
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Another important point: without underwear, fecal and urine microparticules will be sent floating around, which is bad for lungs.
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Housecleaning in Zero-G
Think through the amount of body hair and skin flakes a human sheds each week. On Earth, you take a vacuum cleaner or a mop. Still, fluff collects in hard-to-reach places. No big deal, really.
The combination of zero-g and artificial life support systems makes fluff a greater problem in space. The solution? Almost-full-body clothing and hair nets are worn just about everywhere, except in the bathroom and at the doctor's office. Those places have heavy-duty air filters which are cleaned more frequently.
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Housecleaning in Zero-G
Think through the amount of body hair and skin flakes a human sheds each week. On Earth, you take a vacuum cleaner or a mop. Still, fluff collects in hard-to-reach places. No big deal, really.
The combination of zero-g and artificial life support systems makes fluff a greater problem in space. The solution? Almost-full-body clothing and hair nets are worn just about everywhere, except in the bathroom and at the doctor's office. Those places have heavy-duty air filters which are cleaned more frequently.
answered yesterday
o.m.o.m.
60.5k789200
60.5k789200
7
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This is the right answer. When I think about it, spaceship crew would probably have to shave or depilate their whole bodies, to spare work for the air filters. When I see the amount of hair two people deposit in a household, a whole crew is going to shed an awful lot.
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– RedSonja
yesterday
19
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Arthur C Clarke would just make full-body hairlessness a common practice amongst spacers :P
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– Ruadhan
yesterday
5
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While it is presumably implied, it could possibly be noted that space clothing should generally be fluffless.
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– Gnudiff
yesterday
5
$begingroup$
Good, but maybe should be less about dirt and more about the BIOHAZARD the crud/stains/etc represent. You can sanitize a toilet seat. Less so with cabin seats you spend hours in. FedEx-ing a new chair in involves rather a lot higher shipping fees. And disposal fees.
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– kaay
yesterday
13
$begingroup$
Another important point: without underwear, fecal and urine microparticules will be sent floating around, which is bad for lungs.
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– Eth
yesterday
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7
$begingroup$
This is the right answer. When I think about it, spaceship crew would probably have to shave or depilate their whole bodies, to spare work for the air filters. When I see the amount of hair two people deposit in a household, a whole crew is going to shed an awful lot.
$endgroup$
– RedSonja
yesterday
19
$begingroup$
Arthur C Clarke would just make full-body hairlessness a common practice amongst spacers :P
$endgroup$
– Ruadhan
yesterday
5
$begingroup$
While it is presumably implied, it could possibly be noted that space clothing should generally be fluffless.
$endgroup$
– Gnudiff
yesterday
5
$begingroup$
Good, but maybe should be less about dirt and more about the BIOHAZARD the crud/stains/etc represent. You can sanitize a toilet seat. Less so with cabin seats you spend hours in. FedEx-ing a new chair in involves rather a lot higher shipping fees. And disposal fees.
$endgroup$
– kaay
yesterday
13
$begingroup$
Another important point: without underwear, fecal and urine microparticules will be sent floating around, which is bad for lungs.
$endgroup$
– Eth
yesterday
7
7
$begingroup$
This is the right answer. When I think about it, spaceship crew would probably have to shave or depilate their whole bodies, to spare work for the air filters. When I see the amount of hair two people deposit in a household, a whole crew is going to shed an awful lot.
$endgroup$
– RedSonja
yesterday
$begingroup$
This is the right answer. When I think about it, spaceship crew would probably have to shave or depilate their whole bodies, to spare work for the air filters. When I see the amount of hair two people deposit in a household, a whole crew is going to shed an awful lot.
$endgroup$
– RedSonja
yesterday
19
19
$begingroup$
Arthur C Clarke would just make full-body hairlessness a common practice amongst spacers :P
$endgroup$
– Ruadhan
yesterday
$begingroup$
Arthur C Clarke would just make full-body hairlessness a common practice amongst spacers :P
$endgroup$
– Ruadhan
yesterday
5
5
$begingroup$
While it is presumably implied, it could possibly be noted that space clothing should generally be fluffless.
$endgroup$
– Gnudiff
yesterday
$begingroup$
While it is presumably implied, it could possibly be noted that space clothing should generally be fluffless.
$endgroup$
– Gnudiff
yesterday
5
5
$begingroup$
Good, but maybe should be less about dirt and more about the BIOHAZARD the crud/stains/etc represent. You can sanitize a toilet seat. Less so with cabin seats you spend hours in. FedEx-ing a new chair in involves rather a lot higher shipping fees. And disposal fees.
$endgroup$
– kaay
yesterday
$begingroup$
Good, but maybe should be less about dirt and more about the BIOHAZARD the crud/stains/etc represent. You can sanitize a toilet seat. Less so with cabin seats you spend hours in. FedEx-ing a new chair in involves rather a lot higher shipping fees. And disposal fees.
$endgroup$
– kaay
yesterday
13
13
$begingroup$
Another important point: without underwear, fecal and urine microparticules will be sent floating around, which is bad for lungs.
$endgroup$
– Eth
yesterday
$begingroup$
Another important point: without underwear, fecal and urine microparticules will be sent floating around, which is bad for lungs.
$endgroup$
– Eth
yesterday
|
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Spacesuits are compulsory
The human body is ill suited for leaving the confines of Earth. Spacesuits serve a variety of necessary functions in order for humans to operate in space like temperature regulation, providing an air supply, protection from solar radiation, etc. Those living or travelling in space long term have to be prepared to enter hard vacuum at any moment to effect repairs or modifications on the external surface of the spacecraft. Even the stripped down "casual wear" astronauts might don when not on shift would have common sense features deemed absolutely necessary like life sign monitoring, communications, distress beacons, etc.
Therefore you can go starkers if you want...under your spacesuit
$endgroup$
9
$begingroup$
After a few decompression accidents killing a couple people, wearing a space suit whenever feasible might be a reasonable safety precaution. Especially when space suit technology got advanced enough that they are no longer as bulky as they are today.
$endgroup$
– Philipp
yesterday
3
$begingroup$
This also covers for any situation where a spaceship or space station section depressurizes unexpectedly - meteoroid? No problem, just seal off the section with the leak. The people in there can go around the outside and reenter via the airlock, because they're already wearing spacesuits as legally required, right?
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– Skyler
23 hours ago
$begingroup$
At this point, one wonders what the purpose of pressurized hulls is anyway. The outer hull would pretty much only be to keep stuff (and people) contained and to shield the crew from cosmic rays.
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– Gryphon
13 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Gryphon heat transfer would be one. Heat does not transfer in a vacuum, and this will cause electrical failures in extremely hard to fix places. Electronics designed to work in space are made very, very differently.
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– Nelson
9 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Gryphon it would give you a second layer of defense against accidental depressurisation. A suit might tear or malfunction. In an unpressurized einvironment, that might be lethal. Another reason is sound transfer. When you are in a pressurized environment, you can hear when your reactor cooling system makes strange rattling noises.
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– Philipp
4 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Spacesuits are compulsory
The human body is ill suited for leaving the confines of Earth. Spacesuits serve a variety of necessary functions in order for humans to operate in space like temperature regulation, providing an air supply, protection from solar radiation, etc. Those living or travelling in space long term have to be prepared to enter hard vacuum at any moment to effect repairs or modifications on the external surface of the spacecraft. Even the stripped down "casual wear" astronauts might don when not on shift would have common sense features deemed absolutely necessary like life sign monitoring, communications, distress beacons, etc.
Therefore you can go starkers if you want...under your spacesuit
$endgroup$
9
$begingroup$
After a few decompression accidents killing a couple people, wearing a space suit whenever feasible might be a reasonable safety precaution. Especially when space suit technology got advanced enough that they are no longer as bulky as they are today.
$endgroup$
– Philipp
yesterday
3
$begingroup$
This also covers for any situation where a spaceship or space station section depressurizes unexpectedly - meteoroid? No problem, just seal off the section with the leak. The people in there can go around the outside and reenter via the airlock, because they're already wearing spacesuits as legally required, right?
$endgroup$
– Skyler
23 hours ago
$begingroup$
At this point, one wonders what the purpose of pressurized hulls is anyway. The outer hull would pretty much only be to keep stuff (and people) contained and to shield the crew from cosmic rays.
$endgroup$
– Gryphon
13 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Gryphon heat transfer would be one. Heat does not transfer in a vacuum, and this will cause electrical failures in extremely hard to fix places. Electronics designed to work in space are made very, very differently.
$endgroup$
– Nelson
9 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Gryphon it would give you a second layer of defense against accidental depressurisation. A suit might tear or malfunction. In an unpressurized einvironment, that might be lethal. Another reason is sound transfer. When you are in a pressurized environment, you can hear when your reactor cooling system makes strange rattling noises.
$endgroup$
– Philipp
4 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Spacesuits are compulsory
The human body is ill suited for leaving the confines of Earth. Spacesuits serve a variety of necessary functions in order for humans to operate in space like temperature regulation, providing an air supply, protection from solar radiation, etc. Those living or travelling in space long term have to be prepared to enter hard vacuum at any moment to effect repairs or modifications on the external surface of the spacecraft. Even the stripped down "casual wear" astronauts might don when not on shift would have common sense features deemed absolutely necessary like life sign monitoring, communications, distress beacons, etc.
Therefore you can go starkers if you want...under your spacesuit
$endgroup$
Spacesuits are compulsory
The human body is ill suited for leaving the confines of Earth. Spacesuits serve a variety of necessary functions in order for humans to operate in space like temperature regulation, providing an air supply, protection from solar radiation, etc. Those living or travelling in space long term have to be prepared to enter hard vacuum at any moment to effect repairs or modifications on the external surface of the spacecraft. Even the stripped down "casual wear" astronauts might don when not on shift would have common sense features deemed absolutely necessary like life sign monitoring, communications, distress beacons, etc.
Therefore you can go starkers if you want...under your spacesuit
answered yesterday
nullpointernullpointer
5,64721234
5,64721234
9
$begingroup$
After a few decompression accidents killing a couple people, wearing a space suit whenever feasible might be a reasonable safety precaution. Especially when space suit technology got advanced enough that they are no longer as bulky as they are today.
$endgroup$
– Philipp
yesterday
3
$begingroup$
This also covers for any situation where a spaceship or space station section depressurizes unexpectedly - meteoroid? No problem, just seal off the section with the leak. The people in there can go around the outside and reenter via the airlock, because they're already wearing spacesuits as legally required, right?
$endgroup$
– Skyler
23 hours ago
$begingroup$
At this point, one wonders what the purpose of pressurized hulls is anyway. The outer hull would pretty much only be to keep stuff (and people) contained and to shield the crew from cosmic rays.
$endgroup$
– Gryphon
13 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Gryphon heat transfer would be one. Heat does not transfer in a vacuum, and this will cause electrical failures in extremely hard to fix places. Electronics designed to work in space are made very, very differently.
$endgroup$
– Nelson
9 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Gryphon it would give you a second layer of defense against accidental depressurisation. A suit might tear or malfunction. In an unpressurized einvironment, that might be lethal. Another reason is sound transfer. When you are in a pressurized environment, you can hear when your reactor cooling system makes strange rattling noises.
$endgroup$
– Philipp
4 hours ago
add a comment |
9
$begingroup$
After a few decompression accidents killing a couple people, wearing a space suit whenever feasible might be a reasonable safety precaution. Especially when space suit technology got advanced enough that they are no longer as bulky as they are today.
$endgroup$
– Philipp
yesterday
3
$begingroup$
This also covers for any situation where a spaceship or space station section depressurizes unexpectedly - meteoroid? No problem, just seal off the section with the leak. The people in there can go around the outside and reenter via the airlock, because they're already wearing spacesuits as legally required, right?
$endgroup$
– Skyler
23 hours ago
$begingroup$
At this point, one wonders what the purpose of pressurized hulls is anyway. The outer hull would pretty much only be to keep stuff (and people) contained and to shield the crew from cosmic rays.
$endgroup$
– Gryphon
13 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Gryphon heat transfer would be one. Heat does not transfer in a vacuum, and this will cause electrical failures in extremely hard to fix places. Electronics designed to work in space are made very, very differently.
$endgroup$
– Nelson
9 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Gryphon it would give you a second layer of defense against accidental depressurisation. A suit might tear or malfunction. In an unpressurized einvironment, that might be lethal. Another reason is sound transfer. When you are in a pressurized environment, you can hear when your reactor cooling system makes strange rattling noises.
$endgroup$
– Philipp
4 hours ago
9
9
$begingroup$
After a few decompression accidents killing a couple people, wearing a space suit whenever feasible might be a reasonable safety precaution. Especially when space suit technology got advanced enough that they are no longer as bulky as they are today.
$endgroup$
– Philipp
yesterday
$begingroup$
After a few decompression accidents killing a couple people, wearing a space suit whenever feasible might be a reasonable safety precaution. Especially when space suit technology got advanced enough that they are no longer as bulky as they are today.
$endgroup$
– Philipp
yesterday
3
3
$begingroup$
This also covers for any situation where a spaceship or space station section depressurizes unexpectedly - meteoroid? No problem, just seal off the section with the leak. The people in there can go around the outside and reenter via the airlock, because they're already wearing spacesuits as legally required, right?
$endgroup$
– Skyler
23 hours ago
$begingroup$
This also covers for any situation where a spaceship or space station section depressurizes unexpectedly - meteoroid? No problem, just seal off the section with the leak. The people in there can go around the outside and reenter via the airlock, because they're already wearing spacesuits as legally required, right?
$endgroup$
– Skyler
23 hours ago
$begingroup$
At this point, one wonders what the purpose of pressurized hulls is anyway. The outer hull would pretty much only be to keep stuff (and people) contained and to shield the crew from cosmic rays.
$endgroup$
– Gryphon
13 hours ago
$begingroup$
At this point, one wonders what the purpose of pressurized hulls is anyway. The outer hull would pretty much only be to keep stuff (and people) contained and to shield the crew from cosmic rays.
$endgroup$
– Gryphon
13 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Gryphon heat transfer would be one. Heat does not transfer in a vacuum, and this will cause electrical failures in extremely hard to fix places. Electronics designed to work in space are made very, very differently.
$endgroup$
– Nelson
9 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Gryphon heat transfer would be one. Heat does not transfer in a vacuum, and this will cause electrical failures in extremely hard to fix places. Electronics designed to work in space are made very, very differently.
$endgroup$
– Nelson
9 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Gryphon it would give you a second layer of defense against accidental depressurisation. A suit might tear or malfunction. In an unpressurized einvironment, that might be lethal. Another reason is sound transfer. When you are in a pressurized environment, you can hear when your reactor cooling system makes strange rattling noises.
$endgroup$
– Philipp
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Gryphon it would give you a second layer of defense against accidental depressurisation. A suit might tear or malfunction. In an unpressurized einvironment, that might be lethal. Another reason is sound transfer. When you are in a pressurized environment, you can hear when your reactor cooling system makes strange rattling noises.
$endgroup$
– Philipp
4 hours ago
add a comment |
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1 - We're icky
There is a hygienic dimension to clothing. As mammals, especially placental mammals, we're always secreting and shedding something -- sweat, oil, hair, dead skin, and many other substances that are unnecessary and inadvisable to list.
The areas we cover up are notorious for making right messes, and even the more acceptable areas may be suspect due to sweat. This is exacerbated in low or zero-g environments due to the fact that these particles are free to detach from the body, float and get everywhere.
The very best case scenario is that the whole station will start to smell like old sweat, which probably won't be a problem for people who have been in microgravity long enough for their noses to stop smelling as well.
Worst case...well, there's lots of things you really don't want getting on your computer interfaces. Or in your food. It could even be microscopic particles, and those are just yummy.
You could bathe and shave constantly, but that's a bit of a waste of station resources and you're better off just wearing material that can catch all the gross mammalian materials and wash those in bulk.
At the very least, you'd wear something to cover the pubic area and that would narrow the problems down to sweat and stray body or head hairs. Everyone would look like they're at a topless beach party, but it would be enough for the majority of human cultures to consider "clothed".
2 - Protection
Space is pretty dangerous. Here you are floating in a tin can, far above [ gravitational reference body ]. Anything can happen; your body can be exposed to raw sunlight, gamma radiation (gamma rays from malicious sources can have devastating effects on crew), or even open vacuum. The human body doesn't really care for any of these, and so an advanced bodysuit of some kind would be preferred.
Furthermore, navigating a microgravity habitat is a constant gymnastics show. Astronauts launch and throw themselves off surfaces and try to catch bars and top themselves on other surfaces. If you miss, you're likely to collide with something or graze your body on some equipment. Something can poke your belly, scrape against your back or hit you right in the space nads. It's nice to have something to absorb at least some of that impact.
3 - Utility
Working on a space station requires versatility and high function. You'll need to carry tools and materials with you. To do this you'll need pockets, loops, velcro pads etc. It would also be highly beneficial if you were wearing some kind of harness; you can hook yourself to surfaces, brace yourself into places, and can easily go in and out of exercise equipment. The harness itself could also be a modular chassis for utility attachments, not unlike the H-harness that U.S. Marines wear.
Could you get by with just the modular harness and pocket belt? Eehhhh, maybe but the mental image at this point is getting pretty fetishistic. You can still go for it, man. It's your world, you're the creator.
4 - Comfort
I'm not gonna lie, walking around in just a birthday suit can be nice when nobody's around. But the feeling gets old, and it feels way nicer to have something soft and loose over your body. Robe, pajamas and T shirt, night gown, whatever orbits your spacecraft. Space stations aren't exactly known for being soft, warm and cuddly so wearing something to counter that can be a good idea.
5 - Fashion
Why navigate a space station in your birthday suit when there are so many other suits to choose from? Humans have always wanted to express themselves, and there's really no other universal way we do that than in what clothes we wear. It doesn't have to be anything fancy, though anything can happen. Anything from a simple T-shirt with an outdated reference from 2034 to a flashy yet functional station suit could work. How much clothing we decide to wear has varied over the millenia, yet most people from history would have agreed that people who had very little clothing were typically low status.
6 - Religious views
This one is pretty self-explanatory, isn't it?
7 - The Powers That Be say "NO"
Your astronauts of the Immediate Future may be progressively-minded, but Earth, that old world, is not. They also happen to be the ones funding your continued operation and survival. Your crew will very probably get to have some downtime where they can wear whatever they want, but in official broadcats and on receiving visitors, it's expected that they dress accordingly.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Religious views? Where in the bible (or other holy book) does it say you must wear clothes? Note that I'm not an expert on the bible, so although the question is indended to be rhetorical, if such a directive exists I would be interested to know.
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– Bohemian
22 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@Bohemian the Bible usually describes nudity as shameful and degrading and related to sin. Some samples are Genesis 9:21; Exodus 20:26; 32:25; 2 Chronicles 28:19; Revelation 3:17; 16:15; 17:16 Wheres only a few occurrences depicted it as not sinful. Nudity tends to have the implication of sinfulness attached to it, due to the 'sin' of lust.
$endgroup$
– MX D
21 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
Regarding utility - another problem in zero-G is getting stuck in the middle of a room. If the walls are out of reach, you need to have something you can throw to make yourself drift to the other side of the room. If you're wearing clothing, you'll always have something that you can throw in a pinch.
$endgroup$
– Rob Watts
20 hours ago
4
$begingroup$
@Bohemian Most religions are pretty clear about their followers being modest. What counts as "modest" is often left to the local culture though. The Adam and Eve story though is very clear that nakedness was something to be ashamed of - although they didn't have shame until they had a concept of sin, which is an interesting side quest into morality in its own right.
$endgroup$
– Graham
19 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
@bohemian you’re asking for sources in the religious books that explicitly decry nudity. This answer doesn’t claim the books explicitly ban it, the answer claims that there are religious views around nudity, which is a perfectly accurate claim.
$endgroup$
– Tim
17 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
$begingroup$
1 - We're icky
There is a hygienic dimension to clothing. As mammals, especially placental mammals, we're always secreting and shedding something -- sweat, oil, hair, dead skin, and many other substances that are unnecessary and inadvisable to list.
The areas we cover up are notorious for making right messes, and even the more acceptable areas may be suspect due to sweat. This is exacerbated in low or zero-g environments due to the fact that these particles are free to detach from the body, float and get everywhere.
The very best case scenario is that the whole station will start to smell like old sweat, which probably won't be a problem for people who have been in microgravity long enough for their noses to stop smelling as well.
Worst case...well, there's lots of things you really don't want getting on your computer interfaces. Or in your food. It could even be microscopic particles, and those are just yummy.
You could bathe and shave constantly, but that's a bit of a waste of station resources and you're better off just wearing material that can catch all the gross mammalian materials and wash those in bulk.
At the very least, you'd wear something to cover the pubic area and that would narrow the problems down to sweat and stray body or head hairs. Everyone would look like they're at a topless beach party, but it would be enough for the majority of human cultures to consider "clothed".
2 - Protection
Space is pretty dangerous. Here you are floating in a tin can, far above [ gravitational reference body ]. Anything can happen; your body can be exposed to raw sunlight, gamma radiation (gamma rays from malicious sources can have devastating effects on crew), or even open vacuum. The human body doesn't really care for any of these, and so an advanced bodysuit of some kind would be preferred.
Furthermore, navigating a microgravity habitat is a constant gymnastics show. Astronauts launch and throw themselves off surfaces and try to catch bars and top themselves on other surfaces. If you miss, you're likely to collide with something or graze your body on some equipment. Something can poke your belly, scrape against your back or hit you right in the space nads. It's nice to have something to absorb at least some of that impact.
3 - Utility
Working on a space station requires versatility and high function. You'll need to carry tools and materials with you. To do this you'll need pockets, loops, velcro pads etc. It would also be highly beneficial if you were wearing some kind of harness; you can hook yourself to surfaces, brace yourself into places, and can easily go in and out of exercise equipment. The harness itself could also be a modular chassis for utility attachments, not unlike the H-harness that U.S. Marines wear.
Could you get by with just the modular harness and pocket belt? Eehhhh, maybe but the mental image at this point is getting pretty fetishistic. You can still go for it, man. It's your world, you're the creator.
4 - Comfort
I'm not gonna lie, walking around in just a birthday suit can be nice when nobody's around. But the feeling gets old, and it feels way nicer to have something soft and loose over your body. Robe, pajamas and T shirt, night gown, whatever orbits your spacecraft. Space stations aren't exactly known for being soft, warm and cuddly so wearing something to counter that can be a good idea.
5 - Fashion
Why navigate a space station in your birthday suit when there are so many other suits to choose from? Humans have always wanted to express themselves, and there's really no other universal way we do that than in what clothes we wear. It doesn't have to be anything fancy, though anything can happen. Anything from a simple T-shirt with an outdated reference from 2034 to a flashy yet functional station suit could work. How much clothing we decide to wear has varied over the millenia, yet most people from history would have agreed that people who had very little clothing were typically low status.
6 - Religious views
This one is pretty self-explanatory, isn't it?
7 - The Powers That Be say "NO"
Your astronauts of the Immediate Future may be progressively-minded, but Earth, that old world, is not. They also happen to be the ones funding your continued operation and survival. Your crew will very probably get to have some downtime where they can wear whatever they want, but in official broadcats and on receiving visitors, it's expected that they dress accordingly.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Religious views? Where in the bible (or other holy book) does it say you must wear clothes? Note that I'm not an expert on the bible, so although the question is indended to be rhetorical, if such a directive exists I would be interested to know.
$endgroup$
– Bohemian
22 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@Bohemian the Bible usually describes nudity as shameful and degrading and related to sin. Some samples are Genesis 9:21; Exodus 20:26; 32:25; 2 Chronicles 28:19; Revelation 3:17; 16:15; 17:16 Wheres only a few occurrences depicted it as not sinful. Nudity tends to have the implication of sinfulness attached to it, due to the 'sin' of lust.
$endgroup$
– MX D
21 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
Regarding utility - another problem in zero-G is getting stuck in the middle of a room. If the walls are out of reach, you need to have something you can throw to make yourself drift to the other side of the room. If you're wearing clothing, you'll always have something that you can throw in a pinch.
$endgroup$
– Rob Watts
20 hours ago
4
$begingroup$
@Bohemian Most religions are pretty clear about their followers being modest. What counts as "modest" is often left to the local culture though. The Adam and Eve story though is very clear that nakedness was something to be ashamed of - although they didn't have shame until they had a concept of sin, which is an interesting side quest into morality in its own right.
$endgroup$
– Graham
19 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
@bohemian you’re asking for sources in the religious books that explicitly decry nudity. This answer doesn’t claim the books explicitly ban it, the answer claims that there are religious views around nudity, which is a perfectly accurate claim.
$endgroup$
– Tim
17 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
$begingroup$
1 - We're icky
There is a hygienic dimension to clothing. As mammals, especially placental mammals, we're always secreting and shedding something -- sweat, oil, hair, dead skin, and many other substances that are unnecessary and inadvisable to list.
The areas we cover up are notorious for making right messes, and even the more acceptable areas may be suspect due to sweat. This is exacerbated in low or zero-g environments due to the fact that these particles are free to detach from the body, float and get everywhere.
The very best case scenario is that the whole station will start to smell like old sweat, which probably won't be a problem for people who have been in microgravity long enough for their noses to stop smelling as well.
Worst case...well, there's lots of things you really don't want getting on your computer interfaces. Or in your food. It could even be microscopic particles, and those are just yummy.
You could bathe and shave constantly, but that's a bit of a waste of station resources and you're better off just wearing material that can catch all the gross mammalian materials and wash those in bulk.
At the very least, you'd wear something to cover the pubic area and that would narrow the problems down to sweat and stray body or head hairs. Everyone would look like they're at a topless beach party, but it would be enough for the majority of human cultures to consider "clothed".
2 - Protection
Space is pretty dangerous. Here you are floating in a tin can, far above [ gravitational reference body ]. Anything can happen; your body can be exposed to raw sunlight, gamma radiation (gamma rays from malicious sources can have devastating effects on crew), or even open vacuum. The human body doesn't really care for any of these, and so an advanced bodysuit of some kind would be preferred.
Furthermore, navigating a microgravity habitat is a constant gymnastics show. Astronauts launch and throw themselves off surfaces and try to catch bars and top themselves on other surfaces. If you miss, you're likely to collide with something or graze your body on some equipment. Something can poke your belly, scrape against your back or hit you right in the space nads. It's nice to have something to absorb at least some of that impact.
3 - Utility
Working on a space station requires versatility and high function. You'll need to carry tools and materials with you. To do this you'll need pockets, loops, velcro pads etc. It would also be highly beneficial if you were wearing some kind of harness; you can hook yourself to surfaces, brace yourself into places, and can easily go in and out of exercise equipment. The harness itself could also be a modular chassis for utility attachments, not unlike the H-harness that U.S. Marines wear.
Could you get by with just the modular harness and pocket belt? Eehhhh, maybe but the mental image at this point is getting pretty fetishistic. You can still go for it, man. It's your world, you're the creator.
4 - Comfort
I'm not gonna lie, walking around in just a birthday suit can be nice when nobody's around. But the feeling gets old, and it feels way nicer to have something soft and loose over your body. Robe, pajamas and T shirt, night gown, whatever orbits your spacecraft. Space stations aren't exactly known for being soft, warm and cuddly so wearing something to counter that can be a good idea.
5 - Fashion
Why navigate a space station in your birthday suit when there are so many other suits to choose from? Humans have always wanted to express themselves, and there's really no other universal way we do that than in what clothes we wear. It doesn't have to be anything fancy, though anything can happen. Anything from a simple T-shirt with an outdated reference from 2034 to a flashy yet functional station suit could work. How much clothing we decide to wear has varied over the millenia, yet most people from history would have agreed that people who had very little clothing were typically low status.
6 - Religious views
This one is pretty self-explanatory, isn't it?
7 - The Powers That Be say "NO"
Your astronauts of the Immediate Future may be progressively-minded, but Earth, that old world, is not. They also happen to be the ones funding your continued operation and survival. Your crew will very probably get to have some downtime where they can wear whatever they want, but in official broadcats and on receiving visitors, it's expected that they dress accordingly.
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1 - We're icky
There is a hygienic dimension to clothing. As mammals, especially placental mammals, we're always secreting and shedding something -- sweat, oil, hair, dead skin, and many other substances that are unnecessary and inadvisable to list.
The areas we cover up are notorious for making right messes, and even the more acceptable areas may be suspect due to sweat. This is exacerbated in low or zero-g environments due to the fact that these particles are free to detach from the body, float and get everywhere.
The very best case scenario is that the whole station will start to smell like old sweat, which probably won't be a problem for people who have been in microgravity long enough for their noses to stop smelling as well.
Worst case...well, there's lots of things you really don't want getting on your computer interfaces. Or in your food. It could even be microscopic particles, and those are just yummy.
You could bathe and shave constantly, but that's a bit of a waste of station resources and you're better off just wearing material that can catch all the gross mammalian materials and wash those in bulk.
At the very least, you'd wear something to cover the pubic area and that would narrow the problems down to sweat and stray body or head hairs. Everyone would look like they're at a topless beach party, but it would be enough for the majority of human cultures to consider "clothed".
2 - Protection
Space is pretty dangerous. Here you are floating in a tin can, far above [ gravitational reference body ]. Anything can happen; your body can be exposed to raw sunlight, gamma radiation (gamma rays from malicious sources can have devastating effects on crew), or even open vacuum. The human body doesn't really care for any of these, and so an advanced bodysuit of some kind would be preferred.
Furthermore, navigating a microgravity habitat is a constant gymnastics show. Astronauts launch and throw themselves off surfaces and try to catch bars and top themselves on other surfaces. If you miss, you're likely to collide with something or graze your body on some equipment. Something can poke your belly, scrape against your back or hit you right in the space nads. It's nice to have something to absorb at least some of that impact.
3 - Utility
Working on a space station requires versatility and high function. You'll need to carry tools and materials with you. To do this you'll need pockets, loops, velcro pads etc. It would also be highly beneficial if you were wearing some kind of harness; you can hook yourself to surfaces, brace yourself into places, and can easily go in and out of exercise equipment. The harness itself could also be a modular chassis for utility attachments, not unlike the H-harness that U.S. Marines wear.
Could you get by with just the modular harness and pocket belt? Eehhhh, maybe but the mental image at this point is getting pretty fetishistic. You can still go for it, man. It's your world, you're the creator.
4 - Comfort
I'm not gonna lie, walking around in just a birthday suit can be nice when nobody's around. But the feeling gets old, and it feels way nicer to have something soft and loose over your body. Robe, pajamas and T shirt, night gown, whatever orbits your spacecraft. Space stations aren't exactly known for being soft, warm and cuddly so wearing something to counter that can be a good idea.
5 - Fashion
Why navigate a space station in your birthday suit when there are so many other suits to choose from? Humans have always wanted to express themselves, and there's really no other universal way we do that than in what clothes we wear. It doesn't have to be anything fancy, though anything can happen. Anything from a simple T-shirt with an outdated reference from 2034 to a flashy yet functional station suit could work. How much clothing we decide to wear has varied over the millenia, yet most people from history would have agreed that people who had very little clothing were typically low status.
6 - Religious views
This one is pretty self-explanatory, isn't it?
7 - The Powers That Be say "NO"
Your astronauts of the Immediate Future may be progressively-minded, but Earth, that old world, is not. They also happen to be the ones funding your continued operation and survival. Your crew will very probably get to have some downtime where they can wear whatever they want, but in official broadcats and on receiving visitors, it's expected that they dress accordingly.
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Religious views? Where in the bible (or other holy book) does it say you must wear clothes? Note that I'm not an expert on the bible, so although the question is indended to be rhetorical, if such a directive exists I would be interested to know.
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– Bohemian
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@Bohemian the Bible usually describes nudity as shameful and degrading and related to sin. Some samples are Genesis 9:21; Exodus 20:26; 32:25; 2 Chronicles 28:19; Revelation 3:17; 16:15; 17:16 Wheres only a few occurrences depicted it as not sinful. Nudity tends to have the implication of sinfulness attached to it, due to the 'sin' of lust.
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Regarding utility - another problem in zero-G is getting stuck in the middle of a room. If the walls are out of reach, you need to have something you can throw to make yourself drift to the other side of the room. If you're wearing clothing, you'll always have something that you can throw in a pinch.
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– Rob Watts
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@Bohemian Most religions are pretty clear about their followers being modest. What counts as "modest" is often left to the local culture though. The Adam and Eve story though is very clear that nakedness was something to be ashamed of - although they didn't have shame until they had a concept of sin, which is an interesting side quest into morality in its own right.
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– Graham
19 hours ago
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@bohemian you’re asking for sources in the religious books that explicitly decry nudity. This answer doesn’t claim the books explicitly ban it, the answer claims that there are religious views around nudity, which is a perfectly accurate claim.
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Religious views? Where in the bible (or other holy book) does it say you must wear clothes? Note that I'm not an expert on the bible, so although the question is indended to be rhetorical, if such a directive exists I would be interested to know.
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22 hours ago
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@Bohemian the Bible usually describes nudity as shameful and degrading and related to sin. Some samples are Genesis 9:21; Exodus 20:26; 32:25; 2 Chronicles 28:19; Revelation 3:17; 16:15; 17:16 Wheres only a few occurrences depicted it as not sinful. Nudity tends to have the implication of sinfulness attached to it, due to the 'sin' of lust.
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– MX D
21 hours ago
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Regarding utility - another problem in zero-G is getting stuck in the middle of a room. If the walls are out of reach, you need to have something you can throw to make yourself drift to the other side of the room. If you're wearing clothing, you'll always have something that you can throw in a pinch.
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– Rob Watts
20 hours ago
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@Bohemian Most religions are pretty clear about their followers being modest. What counts as "modest" is often left to the local culture though. The Adam and Eve story though is very clear that nakedness was something to be ashamed of - although they didn't have shame until they had a concept of sin, which is an interesting side quest into morality in its own right.
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– Graham
19 hours ago
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@bohemian you’re asking for sources in the religious books that explicitly decry nudity. This answer doesn’t claim the books explicitly ban it, the answer claims that there are religious views around nudity, which is a perfectly accurate claim.
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– Tim
17 hours ago
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Religious views? Where in the bible (or other holy book) does it say you must wear clothes? Note that I'm not an expert on the bible, so although the question is indended to be rhetorical, if such a directive exists I would be interested to know.
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– Bohemian
22 hours ago
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Religious views? Where in the bible (or other holy book) does it say you must wear clothes? Note that I'm not an expert on the bible, so although the question is indended to be rhetorical, if such a directive exists I would be interested to know.
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– Bohemian
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@Bohemian the Bible usually describes nudity as shameful and degrading and related to sin. Some samples are Genesis 9:21; Exodus 20:26; 32:25; 2 Chronicles 28:19; Revelation 3:17; 16:15; 17:16 Wheres only a few occurrences depicted it as not sinful. Nudity tends to have the implication of sinfulness attached to it, due to the 'sin' of lust.
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– MX D
21 hours ago
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@Bohemian the Bible usually describes nudity as shameful and degrading and related to sin. Some samples are Genesis 9:21; Exodus 20:26; 32:25; 2 Chronicles 28:19; Revelation 3:17; 16:15; 17:16 Wheres only a few occurrences depicted it as not sinful. Nudity tends to have the implication of sinfulness attached to it, due to the 'sin' of lust.
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– MX D
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Regarding utility - another problem in zero-G is getting stuck in the middle of a room. If the walls are out of reach, you need to have something you can throw to make yourself drift to the other side of the room. If you're wearing clothing, you'll always have something that you can throw in a pinch.
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– Rob Watts
20 hours ago
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Regarding utility - another problem in zero-G is getting stuck in the middle of a room. If the walls are out of reach, you need to have something you can throw to make yourself drift to the other side of the room. If you're wearing clothing, you'll always have something that you can throw in a pinch.
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– Rob Watts
20 hours ago
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@Bohemian Most religions are pretty clear about their followers being modest. What counts as "modest" is often left to the local culture though. The Adam and Eve story though is very clear that nakedness was something to be ashamed of - although they didn't have shame until they had a concept of sin, which is an interesting side quest into morality in its own right.
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– Graham
19 hours ago
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@Bohemian Most religions are pretty clear about their followers being modest. What counts as "modest" is often left to the local culture though. The Adam and Eve story though is very clear that nakedness was something to be ashamed of - although they didn't have shame until they had a concept of sin, which is an interesting side quest into morality in its own right.
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– Graham
19 hours ago
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@bohemian you’re asking for sources in the religious books that explicitly decry nudity. This answer doesn’t claim the books explicitly ban it, the answer claims that there are religious views around nudity, which is a perfectly accurate claim.
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– Tim
17 hours ago
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@bohemian you’re asking for sources in the religious books that explicitly decry nudity. This answer doesn’t claim the books explicitly ban it, the answer claims that there are religious views around nudity, which is a perfectly accurate claim.
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If the future conquest of space follows the example of our recent creation of cyberspace, then advertising dollars will pay for a great deal of the infrastructure that is needed. Streaming coverage of everything extraterrestrial (except private bedrooms) might be a major part of future entertainment television; like reality television only on a grander scale.
Perhaps the sponsors of the Titan station are family oriented.
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Big Brother Space Station or Truman in Space?
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– nzaman
23 hours ago
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This is a very interesting concept, but I think that the logical extension of it would be that most spacecraft would have a no-clothes policy.
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– Mad Physicist
20 hours ago
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If the future conquest of space follows the example of our recent creation of cyberspace, then advertising dollars will pay for a great deal of the infrastructure that is needed. Streaming coverage of everything extraterrestrial (except private bedrooms) might be a major part of future entertainment television; like reality television only on a grander scale.
Perhaps the sponsors of the Titan station are family oriented.
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Big Brother Space Station or Truman in Space?
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– nzaman
23 hours ago
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This is a very interesting concept, but I think that the logical extension of it would be that most spacecraft would have a no-clothes policy.
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– Mad Physicist
20 hours ago
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If the future conquest of space follows the example of our recent creation of cyberspace, then advertising dollars will pay for a great deal of the infrastructure that is needed. Streaming coverage of everything extraterrestrial (except private bedrooms) might be a major part of future entertainment television; like reality television only on a grander scale.
Perhaps the sponsors of the Titan station are family oriented.
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If the future conquest of space follows the example of our recent creation of cyberspace, then advertising dollars will pay for a great deal of the infrastructure that is needed. Streaming coverage of everything extraterrestrial (except private bedrooms) might be a major part of future entertainment television; like reality television only on a grander scale.
Perhaps the sponsors of the Titan station are family oriented.
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– nzaman
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This is a very interesting concept, but I think that the logical extension of it would be that most spacecraft would have a no-clothes policy.
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– nzaman
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This is a very interesting concept, but I think that the logical extension of it would be that most spacecraft would have a no-clothes policy.
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– Mad Physicist
20 hours ago
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– nzaman
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Big Brother Space Station or Truman in Space?
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– nzaman
23 hours ago
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This is a very interesting concept, but I think that the logical extension of it would be that most spacecraft would have a no-clothes policy.
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– Mad Physicist
20 hours ago
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This is a very interesting concept, but I think that the logical extension of it would be that most spacecraft would have a no-clothes policy.
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– Mad Physicist
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Don't think anyone else has mentioned this yet:
Heat
Perhaps not a full on reason for zero tolerance as such, but what about the fact you have to heat a spaceship?
Having your occupants in their own bundle of self-generated warmth means you don't have to heat the whole space as high as you would if everyone (or even one) person was nude. (Economical heating reason)
You could go as far as to say that some components on board need a cool (maybe sub zero) temperature to function properly and so low temps are a must. Perhaps as a safety feature in case of coolant containment leak everyone needs some sort of thermal protection.
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I can assure you that the components that need to be cold would be very well isolated from any areas under life support. But the idea of economy is a good one.
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20 hours ago
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Don't think anyone else has mentioned this yet:
Heat
Perhaps not a full on reason for zero tolerance as such, but what about the fact you have to heat a spaceship?
Having your occupants in their own bundle of self-generated warmth means you don't have to heat the whole space as high as you would if everyone (or even one) person was nude. (Economical heating reason)
You could go as far as to say that some components on board need a cool (maybe sub zero) temperature to function properly and so low temps are a must. Perhaps as a safety feature in case of coolant containment leak everyone needs some sort of thermal protection.
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I can assure you that the components that need to be cold would be very well isolated from any areas under life support. But the idea of economy is a good one.
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– Mad Physicist
20 hours ago
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Don't think anyone else has mentioned this yet:
Heat
Perhaps not a full on reason for zero tolerance as such, but what about the fact you have to heat a spaceship?
Having your occupants in their own bundle of self-generated warmth means you don't have to heat the whole space as high as you would if everyone (or even one) person was nude. (Economical heating reason)
You could go as far as to say that some components on board need a cool (maybe sub zero) temperature to function properly and so low temps are a must. Perhaps as a safety feature in case of coolant containment leak everyone needs some sort of thermal protection.
New contributor
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Don't think anyone else has mentioned this yet:
Heat
Perhaps not a full on reason for zero tolerance as such, but what about the fact you have to heat a spaceship?
Having your occupants in their own bundle of self-generated warmth means you don't have to heat the whole space as high as you would if everyone (or even one) person was nude. (Economical heating reason)
You could go as far as to say that some components on board need a cool (maybe sub zero) temperature to function properly and so low temps are a must. Perhaps as a safety feature in case of coolant containment leak everyone needs some sort of thermal protection.
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I can assure you that the components that need to be cold would be very well isolated from any areas under life support. But the idea of economy is a good one.
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– Mad Physicist
20 hours ago
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I can assure you that the components that need to be cold would be very well isolated from any areas under life support. But the idea of economy is a good one.
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– Mad Physicist
20 hours ago
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I can assure you that the components that need to be cold would be very well isolated from any areas under life support. But the idea of economy is a good one.
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– Mad Physicist
20 hours ago
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I can assure you that the components that need to be cold would be very well isolated from any areas under life support. But the idea of economy is a good one.
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– Mad Physicist
20 hours ago
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Religion.
Historically, the most common reason for prescribed garments has been religion. These garments might be obvious to all and so symbolize common membership in the religion (e.g. head coverings). Some garments are not obvious and serve as a reminder of vows to the adherent of the religion. The Mormon temple garment is one of these.
A temple garment... is a type of underwear worn by adherents of the
Latter Day Saint movement after they have taken part in the endowment
ceremony. Garments are worn both day and night and are required for
any adult who previously participated in the endowment ceremony to
enter a temple. The undergarments are viewed as a symbolic reminder of
the covenants made in temple ceremonies and are seen as a symbolic
and/or literal source of protection from the evils of the world.
Your spacefarers are the member of a new religion - or maybe an old religion or remake of an old religion. It is lonely in space, and wearing the garment reminds spacefarers of their connection to something larger - their relationship with the divine powers of their religion, and with other members of their faith.
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I am surprised at downvotes. I wonder if people find this offensive? If so I apologize. It was not my intent to mock or make light of religious beliefs. I think religion could be helpful to space travelers just as it is to people here on the ground.
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– Willk
16 hours ago
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When tagged with 'social-norms', religion is the default answer +1.
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– Mazura
13 hours ago
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Mormon magic underpants are said to be capable of protecting the wearer. I wonder if it could be used instead of an EVA suite. Any LDS astronauts want to test it out?
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– forest
6 hours ago
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Religion.
Historically, the most common reason for prescribed garments has been religion. These garments might be obvious to all and so symbolize common membership in the religion (e.g. head coverings). Some garments are not obvious and serve as a reminder of vows to the adherent of the religion. The Mormon temple garment is one of these.
A temple garment... is a type of underwear worn by adherents of the
Latter Day Saint movement after they have taken part in the endowment
ceremony. Garments are worn both day and night and are required for
any adult who previously participated in the endowment ceremony to
enter a temple. The undergarments are viewed as a symbolic reminder of
the covenants made in temple ceremonies and are seen as a symbolic
and/or literal source of protection from the evils of the world.
Your spacefarers are the member of a new religion - or maybe an old religion or remake of an old religion. It is lonely in space, and wearing the garment reminds spacefarers of their connection to something larger - their relationship with the divine powers of their religion, and with other members of their faith.
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I am surprised at downvotes. I wonder if people find this offensive? If so I apologize. It was not my intent to mock or make light of religious beliefs. I think religion could be helpful to space travelers just as it is to people here on the ground.
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– Willk
16 hours ago
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When tagged with 'social-norms', religion is the default answer +1.
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– Mazura
13 hours ago
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Mormon magic underpants are said to be capable of protecting the wearer. I wonder if it could be used instead of an EVA suite. Any LDS astronauts want to test it out?
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– forest
6 hours ago
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Religion.
Historically, the most common reason for prescribed garments has been religion. These garments might be obvious to all and so symbolize common membership in the religion (e.g. head coverings). Some garments are not obvious and serve as a reminder of vows to the adherent of the religion. The Mormon temple garment is one of these.
A temple garment... is a type of underwear worn by adherents of the
Latter Day Saint movement after they have taken part in the endowment
ceremony. Garments are worn both day and night and are required for
any adult who previously participated in the endowment ceremony to
enter a temple. The undergarments are viewed as a symbolic reminder of
the covenants made in temple ceremonies and are seen as a symbolic
and/or literal source of protection from the evils of the world.
Your spacefarers are the member of a new religion - or maybe an old religion or remake of an old religion. It is lonely in space, and wearing the garment reminds spacefarers of their connection to something larger - their relationship with the divine powers of their religion, and with other members of their faith.
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Religion.
Historically, the most common reason for prescribed garments has been religion. These garments might be obvious to all and so symbolize common membership in the religion (e.g. head coverings). Some garments are not obvious and serve as a reminder of vows to the adherent of the religion. The Mormon temple garment is one of these.
A temple garment... is a type of underwear worn by adherents of the
Latter Day Saint movement after they have taken part in the endowment
ceremony. Garments are worn both day and night and are required for
any adult who previously participated in the endowment ceremony to
enter a temple. The undergarments are viewed as a symbolic reminder of
the covenants made in temple ceremonies and are seen as a symbolic
and/or literal source of protection from the evils of the world.
Your spacefarers are the member of a new religion - or maybe an old religion or remake of an old religion. It is lonely in space, and wearing the garment reminds spacefarers of their connection to something larger - their relationship with the divine powers of their religion, and with other members of their faith.
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I am surprised at downvotes. I wonder if people find this offensive? If so I apologize. It was not my intent to mock or make light of religious beliefs. I think religion could be helpful to space travelers just as it is to people here on the ground.
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– Willk
16 hours ago
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When tagged with 'social-norms', religion is the default answer +1.
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– Mazura
13 hours ago
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Mormon magic underpants are said to be capable of protecting the wearer. I wonder if it could be used instead of an EVA suite. Any LDS astronauts want to test it out?
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– forest
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I am surprised at downvotes. I wonder if people find this offensive? If so I apologize. It was not my intent to mock or make light of religious beliefs. I think religion could be helpful to space travelers just as it is to people here on the ground.
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– Willk
16 hours ago
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When tagged with 'social-norms', religion is the default answer +1.
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– Mazura
13 hours ago
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Mormon magic underpants are said to be capable of protecting the wearer. I wonder if it could be used instead of an EVA suite. Any LDS astronauts want to test it out?
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– forest
6 hours ago
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I am surprised at downvotes. I wonder if people find this offensive? If so I apologize. It was not my intent to mock or make light of religious beliefs. I think religion could be helpful to space travelers just as it is to people here on the ground.
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– Willk
16 hours ago
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I am surprised at downvotes. I wonder if people find this offensive? If so I apologize. It was not my intent to mock or make light of religious beliefs. I think religion could be helpful to space travelers just as it is to people here on the ground.
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– Willk
16 hours ago
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When tagged with 'social-norms', religion is the default answer +1.
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– Mazura
13 hours ago
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When tagged with 'social-norms', religion is the default answer +1.
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– Mazura
13 hours ago
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Mormon magic underpants are said to be capable of protecting the wearer. I wonder if it could be used instead of an EVA suite. Any LDS astronauts want to test it out?
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– forest
6 hours ago
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Mormon magic underpants are said to be capable of protecting the wearer. I wonder if it could be used instead of an EVA suite. Any LDS astronauts want to test it out?
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– forest
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You cannot make such a prohibition because basic sanitation and hygiene requirements require some degree of nudity at different times. See for example Skylab Shower.
In fact the requirements of space flight and relatively confined quarters essentially require that people engaged in space flights must be comfortable being unclothed at times around each other. Modesty is not worth the mass it costs and mass is the most important thing. Mass used in providing special privacy could be better used providing e.g. additional backup life support or something similar.
In an emergency do you want people worried about a ban on nudity or people who will act decisively and immediately ? Nudity should not be an issue for people in this line of work - practically speaking nothing should bother them. If they have to share crude sanitary facilities due to e.g. a breakdown, then that's what is required. No silly restrictions should get in the way of what is practical in space.
There is no policy on possession of adult materials or even engage in intimate activity, just no nudity strictly!
This actually makes no sense. Apart from anything else, no nudity isn't very reasonable when you're allowing intimate adult activity. Put crudely, if they can screw it makes no sense to even try and ban nudity.
The crew would almost certainly be chosen based on their psychological and cognitive balance as a team, with overlap of skills and the psychological ability to complement and replace each other. These people won't even notice nudity.
The idea is deeply flawed, IMO.
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Actually there are parts of the world where people do wear clothes at all times. I have trained in sport clubs where people showered in their underwear (ugh!), and there are religious groups who use a sheet with a hole when - um - procreating, to avoid physical contact... ugh again.
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@RedSonja "Parts of the world" and "in a confined space ship" are quite different things. From a practical point of view it's also worth saying that imposing a lack of nudity on people doesn't prevent anything except the nudity - they're still going to do all the "sins". I would be astonished if the "sheet with a hole" rule can be enforced in any realistic way, so what's the point ?
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– StephenG
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Well, if the spaceship was run by religious nutters they would at least try.
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This answer is predicated upon the assumption that the only reason not to be nude is religious prudishness rather than clothing having any practical purpose.
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– pluckedkiwi
23 hours ago
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@StephenG Your answer is based on clothing in space being 100% due to "modesty" to the point of being outright impractical (aka prudishness for supposedly moral reasons) . This is an incorrect assumption. Clothing is not a completely useless waste of mass but has purely practical functions which have nothing whatsoever to do with "modesty". Just read some of the other answers if you cannot yourself conceive of any purpose of clothing in microgravity.
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You cannot make such a prohibition because basic sanitation and hygiene requirements require some degree of nudity at different times. See for example Skylab Shower.
In fact the requirements of space flight and relatively confined quarters essentially require that people engaged in space flights must be comfortable being unclothed at times around each other. Modesty is not worth the mass it costs and mass is the most important thing. Mass used in providing special privacy could be better used providing e.g. additional backup life support or something similar.
In an emergency do you want people worried about a ban on nudity or people who will act decisively and immediately ? Nudity should not be an issue for people in this line of work - practically speaking nothing should bother them. If they have to share crude sanitary facilities due to e.g. a breakdown, then that's what is required. No silly restrictions should get in the way of what is practical in space.
There is no policy on possession of adult materials or even engage in intimate activity, just no nudity strictly!
This actually makes no sense. Apart from anything else, no nudity isn't very reasonable when you're allowing intimate adult activity. Put crudely, if they can screw it makes no sense to even try and ban nudity.
The crew would almost certainly be chosen based on their psychological and cognitive balance as a team, with overlap of skills and the psychological ability to complement and replace each other. These people won't even notice nudity.
The idea is deeply flawed, IMO.
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Actually there are parts of the world where people do wear clothes at all times. I have trained in sport clubs where people showered in their underwear (ugh!), and there are religious groups who use a sheet with a hole when - um - procreating, to avoid physical contact... ugh again.
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– RedSonja
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@RedSonja "Parts of the world" and "in a confined space ship" are quite different things. From a practical point of view it's also worth saying that imposing a lack of nudity on people doesn't prevent anything except the nudity - they're still going to do all the "sins". I would be astonished if the "sheet with a hole" rule can be enforced in any realistic way, so what's the point ?
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– StephenG
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Well, if the spaceship was run by religious nutters they would at least try.
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– RedSonja
yesterday
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This answer is predicated upon the assumption that the only reason not to be nude is religious prudishness rather than clothing having any practical purpose.
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– pluckedkiwi
23 hours ago
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@StephenG Your answer is based on clothing in space being 100% due to "modesty" to the point of being outright impractical (aka prudishness for supposedly moral reasons) . This is an incorrect assumption. Clothing is not a completely useless waste of mass but has purely practical functions which have nothing whatsoever to do with "modesty". Just read some of the other answers if you cannot yourself conceive of any purpose of clothing in microgravity.
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– pluckedkiwi
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You cannot make such a prohibition because basic sanitation and hygiene requirements require some degree of nudity at different times. See for example Skylab Shower.
In fact the requirements of space flight and relatively confined quarters essentially require that people engaged in space flights must be comfortable being unclothed at times around each other. Modesty is not worth the mass it costs and mass is the most important thing. Mass used in providing special privacy could be better used providing e.g. additional backup life support or something similar.
In an emergency do you want people worried about a ban on nudity or people who will act decisively and immediately ? Nudity should not be an issue for people in this line of work - practically speaking nothing should bother them. If they have to share crude sanitary facilities due to e.g. a breakdown, then that's what is required. No silly restrictions should get in the way of what is practical in space.
There is no policy on possession of adult materials or even engage in intimate activity, just no nudity strictly!
This actually makes no sense. Apart from anything else, no nudity isn't very reasonable when you're allowing intimate adult activity. Put crudely, if they can screw it makes no sense to even try and ban nudity.
The crew would almost certainly be chosen based on their psychological and cognitive balance as a team, with overlap of skills and the psychological ability to complement and replace each other. These people won't even notice nudity.
The idea is deeply flawed, IMO.
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You cannot make such a prohibition because basic sanitation and hygiene requirements require some degree of nudity at different times. See for example Skylab Shower.
In fact the requirements of space flight and relatively confined quarters essentially require that people engaged in space flights must be comfortable being unclothed at times around each other. Modesty is not worth the mass it costs and mass is the most important thing. Mass used in providing special privacy could be better used providing e.g. additional backup life support or something similar.
In an emergency do you want people worried about a ban on nudity or people who will act decisively and immediately ? Nudity should not be an issue for people in this line of work - practically speaking nothing should bother them. If they have to share crude sanitary facilities due to e.g. a breakdown, then that's what is required. No silly restrictions should get in the way of what is practical in space.
There is no policy on possession of adult materials or even engage in intimate activity, just no nudity strictly!
This actually makes no sense. Apart from anything else, no nudity isn't very reasonable when you're allowing intimate adult activity. Put crudely, if they can screw it makes no sense to even try and ban nudity.
The crew would almost certainly be chosen based on their psychological and cognitive balance as a team, with overlap of skills and the psychological ability to complement and replace each other. These people won't even notice nudity.
The idea is deeply flawed, IMO.
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Actually there are parts of the world where people do wear clothes at all times. I have trained in sport clubs where people showered in their underwear (ugh!), and there are religious groups who use a sheet with a hole when - um - procreating, to avoid physical contact... ugh again.
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– RedSonja
yesterday
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@RedSonja "Parts of the world" and "in a confined space ship" are quite different things. From a practical point of view it's also worth saying that imposing a lack of nudity on people doesn't prevent anything except the nudity - they're still going to do all the "sins". I would be astonished if the "sheet with a hole" rule can be enforced in any realistic way, so what's the point ?
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– StephenG
yesterday
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Well, if the spaceship was run by religious nutters they would at least try.
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– RedSonja
yesterday
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This answer is predicated upon the assumption that the only reason not to be nude is religious prudishness rather than clothing having any practical purpose.
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– pluckedkiwi
23 hours ago
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@StephenG Your answer is based on clothing in space being 100% due to "modesty" to the point of being outright impractical (aka prudishness for supposedly moral reasons) . This is an incorrect assumption. Clothing is not a completely useless waste of mass but has purely practical functions which have nothing whatsoever to do with "modesty". Just read some of the other answers if you cannot yourself conceive of any purpose of clothing in microgravity.
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Actually there are parts of the world where people do wear clothes at all times. I have trained in sport clubs where people showered in their underwear (ugh!), and there are religious groups who use a sheet with a hole when - um - procreating, to avoid physical contact... ugh again.
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– RedSonja
yesterday
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@RedSonja "Parts of the world" and "in a confined space ship" are quite different things. From a practical point of view it's also worth saying that imposing a lack of nudity on people doesn't prevent anything except the nudity - they're still going to do all the "sins". I would be astonished if the "sheet with a hole" rule can be enforced in any realistic way, so what's the point ?
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– StephenG
yesterday
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Well, if the spaceship was run by religious nutters they would at least try.
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– RedSonja
yesterday
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This answer is predicated upon the assumption that the only reason not to be nude is religious prudishness rather than clothing having any practical purpose.
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– pluckedkiwi
23 hours ago
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@StephenG Your answer is based on clothing in space being 100% due to "modesty" to the point of being outright impractical (aka prudishness for supposedly moral reasons) . This is an incorrect assumption. Clothing is not a completely useless waste of mass but has purely practical functions which have nothing whatsoever to do with "modesty". Just read some of the other answers if you cannot yourself conceive of any purpose of clothing in microgravity.
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– pluckedkiwi
21 hours ago
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Actually there are parts of the world where people do wear clothes at all times. I have trained in sport clubs where people showered in their underwear (ugh!), and there are religious groups who use a sheet with a hole when - um - procreating, to avoid physical contact... ugh again.
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– RedSonja
yesterday
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Actually there are parts of the world where people do wear clothes at all times. I have trained in sport clubs where people showered in their underwear (ugh!), and there are religious groups who use a sheet with a hole when - um - procreating, to avoid physical contact... ugh again.
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– RedSonja
yesterday
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@RedSonja "Parts of the world" and "in a confined space ship" are quite different things. From a practical point of view it's also worth saying that imposing a lack of nudity on people doesn't prevent anything except the nudity - they're still going to do all the "sins". I would be astonished if the "sheet with a hole" rule can be enforced in any realistic way, so what's the point ?
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– StephenG
yesterday
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@RedSonja "Parts of the world" and "in a confined space ship" are quite different things. From a practical point of view it's also worth saying that imposing a lack of nudity on people doesn't prevent anything except the nudity - they're still going to do all the "sins". I would be astonished if the "sheet with a hole" rule can be enforced in any realistic way, so what's the point ?
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– StephenG
yesterday
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Well, if the spaceship was run by religious nutters they would at least try.
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– RedSonja
yesterday
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Well, if the spaceship was run by religious nutters they would at least try.
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– RedSonja
yesterday
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This answer is predicated upon the assumption that the only reason not to be nude is religious prudishness rather than clothing having any practical purpose.
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– pluckedkiwi
23 hours ago
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This answer is predicated upon the assumption that the only reason not to be nude is religious prudishness rather than clothing having any practical purpose.
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– pluckedkiwi
23 hours ago
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@StephenG Your answer is based on clothing in space being 100% due to "modesty" to the point of being outright impractical (aka prudishness for supposedly moral reasons) . This is an incorrect assumption. Clothing is not a completely useless waste of mass but has purely practical functions which have nothing whatsoever to do with "modesty". Just read some of the other answers if you cannot yourself conceive of any purpose of clothing in microgravity.
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– pluckedkiwi
21 hours ago
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@StephenG Your answer is based on clothing in space being 100% due to "modesty" to the point of being outright impractical (aka prudishness for supposedly moral reasons) . This is an incorrect assumption. Clothing is not a completely useless waste of mass but has purely practical functions which have nothing whatsoever to do with "modesty". Just read some of the other answers if you cannot yourself conceive of any purpose of clothing in microgravity.
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Perhaps teenagers and/or children are on most if not all missions. This may be a part of a high-school class, a trade-school program, or even a menial job opportunity for teenagers (even space stations might need cooks, janitors, or the like). For the sake of avoiding moral or legal issues with underage individuals being exposed to, or exposing themselves, a zero-tolerance nudity for anyone at all times might make sense.
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"even space stations might need cooks, janitors, or the like" Considering the mass penalty brought about by a human, especially one that you want to keep alive, if OP's space travellers use anything even remotely similar to our current propulsion technologies, there's going to be a massive pressure for everyone to do a little of everything, from advanced scientific experiments to cooking and cleaning.
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Perhaps teenagers and/or children are on most if not all missions. This may be a part of a high-school class, a trade-school program, or even a menial job opportunity for teenagers (even space stations might need cooks, janitors, or the like). For the sake of avoiding moral or legal issues with underage individuals being exposed to, or exposing themselves, a zero-tolerance nudity for anyone at all times might make sense.
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"even space stations might need cooks, janitors, or the like" Considering the mass penalty brought about by a human, especially one that you want to keep alive, if OP's space travellers use anything even remotely similar to our current propulsion technologies, there's going to be a massive pressure for everyone to do a little of everything, from advanced scientific experiments to cooking and cleaning.
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– a CVn♦
yesterday
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Perhaps teenagers and/or children are on most if not all missions. This may be a part of a high-school class, a trade-school program, or even a menial job opportunity for teenagers (even space stations might need cooks, janitors, or the like). For the sake of avoiding moral or legal issues with underage individuals being exposed to, or exposing themselves, a zero-tolerance nudity for anyone at all times might make sense.
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Perhaps teenagers and/or children are on most if not all missions. This may be a part of a high-school class, a trade-school program, or even a menial job opportunity for teenagers (even space stations might need cooks, janitors, or the like). For the sake of avoiding moral or legal issues with underage individuals being exposed to, or exposing themselves, a zero-tolerance nudity for anyone at all times might make sense.
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"even space stations might need cooks, janitors, or the like" Considering the mass penalty brought about by a human, especially one that you want to keep alive, if OP's space travellers use anything even remotely similar to our current propulsion technologies, there's going to be a massive pressure for everyone to do a little of everything, from advanced scientific experiments to cooking and cleaning.
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– a CVn♦
yesterday
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"even space stations might need cooks, janitors, or the like" Considering the mass penalty brought about by a human, especially one that you want to keep alive, if OP's space travellers use anything even remotely similar to our current propulsion technologies, there's going to be a massive pressure for everyone to do a little of everything, from advanced scientific experiments to cooking and cleaning.
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– a CVn♦
yesterday
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"even space stations might need cooks, janitors, or the like" Considering the mass penalty brought about by a human, especially one that you want to keep alive, if OP's space travellers use anything even remotely similar to our current propulsion technologies, there's going to be a massive pressure for everyone to do a little of everything, from advanced scientific experiments to cooking and cleaning.
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– a CVn♦
yesterday
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"even space stations might need cooks, janitors, or the like" Considering the mass penalty brought about by a human, especially one that you want to keep alive, if OP's space travellers use anything even remotely similar to our current propulsion technologies, there's going to be a massive pressure for everyone to do a little of everything, from advanced scientific experiments to cooking and cleaning.
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Others have mentioned the issues with the human body leaving dead skin, hair, sweat and the like everywhere, but there is actually a great example of this problem on earth: Nudists.
Nudists are generally expected to carry a small towel or similar to sit on, because a lack of underwear creates hygiene issues. Also as people get older they tend to leak more.
It's somewhat manageable on earth where there are a limited number of places people are likely to sit and they can be cleaned, but even so towels are often mandatory. In space, with low/zero gravity, cramped quarters...
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Others have mentioned the issues with the human body leaving dead skin, hair, sweat and the like everywhere, but there is actually a great example of this problem on earth: Nudists.
Nudists are generally expected to carry a small towel or similar to sit on, because a lack of underwear creates hygiene issues. Also as people get older they tend to leak more.
It's somewhat manageable on earth where there are a limited number of places people are likely to sit and they can be cleaned, but even so towels are often mandatory. In space, with low/zero gravity, cramped quarters...
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Others have mentioned the issues with the human body leaving dead skin, hair, sweat and the like everywhere, but there is actually a great example of this problem on earth: Nudists.
Nudists are generally expected to carry a small towel or similar to sit on, because a lack of underwear creates hygiene issues. Also as people get older they tend to leak more.
It's somewhat manageable on earth where there are a limited number of places people are likely to sit and they can be cleaned, but even so towels are often mandatory. In space, with low/zero gravity, cramped quarters...
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Others have mentioned the issues with the human body leaving dead skin, hair, sweat and the like everywhere, but there is actually a great example of this problem on earth: Nudists.
Nudists are generally expected to carry a small towel or similar to sit on, because a lack of underwear creates hygiene issues. Also as people get older they tend to leak more.
It's somewhat manageable on earth where there are a limited number of places people are likely to sit and they can be cleaned, but even so towels are often mandatory. In space, with low/zero gravity, cramped quarters...
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Researching the basis of nudity prohibition in many countries should bear some fruit for you.
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– Bewilderer
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The question is based on a false premise. I have seen the documentary Barbarella and can attest to the fact that nudity is in fact not only legal but even encouraged!
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– pipe
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Duplicate of Nudism in space: Why wear clothes anyway?
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– Martin Schröder
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Too many dangling parts while working on machinery could be hazardous.
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– kikirex
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@pipe This question is asked on worldbuilding.SE, not reality.SE.
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