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    KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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    I'm a bit confused by the question. Are you asking how to differentiate between $ce{KNO3}$ and $ce{KH2PO4}$, or are you asking how to identify each of these salts from the multitude of other inorganic salts?
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    KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ce{KNO3}$ it should neutral, and if it's $ce{KH2PO4}$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.






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    This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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    @Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.



If the salt was $ce{KNO3}$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).



$ce{KH2PO4}$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.






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    Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ce{KH2PO4}$. Contact with $ce{KNO3}$ shall produce noticeable flame.



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      If you have a soluble calcium salt, you can add that to a solution of your powder. Calcium nitrate is quite soluble, but calcium phosphate should precipitate out:
      $ce{Ca(NO3)2}$ has a solubility of around 1200 g/L (!) while $ce{Ca3(PO4)2}$ is insoluble.






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      Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ce{KNO3}$ it should neutral, and if it's $ce{KH2PO4}$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.






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        This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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        @Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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      Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ce{KNO3}$ it should neutral, and if it's $ce{KH2PO4}$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.






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        $begingroup$
        This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
        $endgroup$
        – Mithoron
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      Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ce{KNO3}$ it should neutral, and if it's $ce{KH2PO4}$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.






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      Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ce{KNO3}$ it should neutral, and if it's $ce{KH2PO4}$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.







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        This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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        – Mithoron
        13 hours ago






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        @Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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        This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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        – Mithoron
        13 hours ago






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      This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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      $begingroup$
      This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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      13 hours ago




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      @Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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      In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
      You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.



      If the salt was $ce{KNO3}$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).



      $ce{KH2PO4}$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.






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        In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
        You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.



        If the salt was $ce{KNO3}$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).



        $ce{KH2PO4}$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.






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          In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
          You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.



          If the salt was $ce{KNO3}$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).



          $ce{KH2PO4}$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.






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          In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
          You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.



          If the salt was $ce{KNO3}$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).



          $ce{KH2PO4}$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.







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              Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ce{KH2PO4}$. Contact with $ce{KNO3}$ shall produce noticeable flame.



              Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRqJ145dyM






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                Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ce{KH2PO4}$. Contact with $ce{KNO3}$ shall produce noticeable flame.



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                  Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ce{KH2PO4}$. Contact with $ce{KNO3}$ shall produce noticeable flame.



                  Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRqJ145dyM






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                  Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ce{KH2PO4}$. Contact with $ce{KNO3}$ shall produce noticeable flame.



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                      If you have a soluble calcium salt, you can add that to a solution of your powder. Calcium nitrate is quite soluble, but calcium phosphate should precipitate out:
                      $ce{Ca(NO3)2}$ has a solubility of around 1200 g/L (!) while $ce{Ca3(PO4)2}$ is insoluble.






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                      If you have a soluble calcium salt, you can add that to a solution of your powder. Calcium nitrate is quite soluble, but calcium phosphate should precipitate out:
                      $ce{Ca(NO3)2}$ has a solubility of around 1200 g/L (!) while $ce{Ca3(PO4)2}$ is insoluble.






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                      If you have a soluble calcium salt, you can add that to a solution of your powder. Calcium nitrate is quite soluble, but calcium phosphate should precipitate out:
                      $ce{Ca(NO3)2}$ has a solubility of around 1200 g/L (!) while $ce{Ca3(PO4)2}$ is insoluble.






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                      If you have a soluble calcium salt, you can add that to a solution of your powder. Calcium nitrate is quite soluble, but calcium phosphate should precipitate out:
                      $ce{Ca(NO3)2}$ has a solubility of around 1200 g/L (!) while $ce{Ca3(PO4)2}$ is insoluble.







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