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Identify KNO3 and KH2PO4 at home
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I am not expert in chemistry. I need to find a way to identify a $ce{KNO3}$ and $ce{KH2PO4}$ powder at home. I suspect the seller gave me the wrong powder. What is the easiest way to do it at home?
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I am not expert in chemistry. I need to find a way to identify a $ce{KNO3}$ and $ce{KH2PO4}$ powder at home. I suspect the seller gave me the wrong powder. What is the easiest way to do it at home?
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KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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– Mithoron
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I'm a bit confused by the question. Are you asking how to differentiate between $ce{KNO3}$ and $ce{KH2PO4}$, or are you asking how to identify each of these salts from the multitude of other inorganic salts?
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I am not expert in chemistry. I need to find a way to identify a $ce{KNO3}$ and $ce{KH2PO4}$ powder at home. I suspect the seller gave me the wrong powder. What is the easiest way to do it at home?
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I am not expert in chemistry. I need to find a way to identify a $ce{KNO3}$ and $ce{KH2PO4}$ powder at home. I suspect the seller gave me the wrong powder. What is the easiest way to do it at home?
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KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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– Mithoron
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I'm a bit confused by the question. Are you asking how to differentiate between $ce{KNO3}$ and $ce{KH2PO4}$, or are you asking how to identify each of these salts from the multitude of other inorganic salts?
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KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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– Mithoron
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I'm a bit confused by the question. Are you asking how to differentiate between $ce{KNO3}$ and $ce{KH2PO4}$, or are you asking how to identify each of these salts from the multitude of other inorganic salts?
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KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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– Mithoron
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KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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13 hours ago
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I'm a bit confused by the question. Are you asking how to differentiate between $ce{KNO3}$ and $ce{KH2PO4}$, or are you asking how to identify each of these salts from the multitude of other inorganic salts?
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I'm a bit confused by the question. Are you asking how to differentiate between $ce{KNO3}$ and $ce{KH2PO4}$, or are you asking how to identify each of these salts from the multitude of other inorganic salts?
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Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ce{KNO3}$ it should neutral, and if it's $ce{KH2PO4}$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.
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This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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– Mithoron
13 hours ago
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@Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.
If the salt was $ce{KNO3}$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).
$ce{KH2PO4}$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.
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Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ce{KH2PO4}$. Contact with $ce{KNO3}$ shall produce noticeable flame.
Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRqJ145dyM
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If you have a soluble calcium salt, you can add that to a solution of your powder. Calcium nitrate is quite soluble, but calcium phosphate should precipitate out:
$ce{Ca(NO3)2}$ has a solubility of around 1200 g/L (!) while $ce{Ca3(PO4)2}$ is insoluble.
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You won't have the neutral salt, and the acidic phosphates are more soluble.
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5 hours ago
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Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ce{KNO3}$ it should neutral, and if it's $ce{KH2PO4}$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.
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This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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– Mithoron
13 hours ago
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@Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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– JAD
4 hours ago
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Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ce{KNO3}$ it should neutral, and if it's $ce{KH2PO4}$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.
$endgroup$
1
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This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
$endgroup$
– Mithoron
13 hours ago
1
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@Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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– JAD
4 hours ago
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Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ce{KNO3}$ it should neutral, and if it's $ce{KH2PO4}$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.
$endgroup$
Well, given that one is a weak acid and the other is the salt of a strong base and a strong acid, the pH of a solution of the powder should tell you which it is. If it's $ce{KNO3}$ it should neutral, and if it's $ce{KH2PO4}$ it should be acidic. Just need some pH paper, which you could probably buy at a pool supply store.
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This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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– Mithoron
13 hours ago
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@Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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– JAD
4 hours ago
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This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
$endgroup$
– Mithoron
13 hours ago
1
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@Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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– JAD
4 hours ago
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This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
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– Mithoron
13 hours ago
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This could work, but KH2PO4 solution would have pH somewhere around 4.7 - water used at home might be as acidic as this, I guess.
$endgroup$
– Mithoron
13 hours ago
1
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@Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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– JAD
4 hours ago
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@Mithoron so be sure to use the pH-paper to test regular water too.
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– JAD
4 hours ago
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In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.
If the salt was $ce{KNO3}$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).
$ce{KH2PO4}$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.
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In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.
If the salt was $ce{KNO3}$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).
$ce{KH2PO4}$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.
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$begingroup$
In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.
If the salt was $ce{KNO3}$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).
$ce{KH2PO4}$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.
$endgroup$
In the absence of other chemicals you can utilize the fact that nitrates(V) are much stronger oxidizing agents than phosphates(V).
You can soak a piece of newspaper in a saturated solution of the salt, let it dry well in a ventilated place and try to ignite it.
If the salt was $ce{KNO3}$, it will burn vigorously and fast (that's why kids are often using paper soaked in sodium nitrate as primitive fuse for home-made firecrackers and rockets).
$ce{KH2PO4}$ doesn't promote combustion of paper, so it will burn normally or even slower.
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Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ce{KH2PO4}$. Contact with $ce{KNO3}$ shall produce noticeable flame.
Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRqJ145dyM
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Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ce{KH2PO4}$. Contact with $ce{KNO3}$ shall produce noticeable flame.
Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRqJ145dyM
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Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ce{KH2PO4}$. Contact with $ce{KNO3}$ shall produce noticeable flame.
Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRqJ145dyM
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Touch medium samples of both salts with a glowing ember. No noticable effect would be observed on contact with $ce{KH2PO4}$. Contact with $ce{KNO3}$ shall produce noticeable flame.
Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRqJ145dyM
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If you have a soluble calcium salt, you can add that to a solution of your powder. Calcium nitrate is quite soluble, but calcium phosphate should precipitate out:
$ce{Ca(NO3)2}$ has a solubility of around 1200 g/L (!) while $ce{Ca3(PO4)2}$ is insoluble.
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You won't have the neutral salt, and the acidic phosphates are more soluble.
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– Ivan Neretin
5 hours ago
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If you have a soluble calcium salt, you can add that to a solution of your powder. Calcium nitrate is quite soluble, but calcium phosphate should precipitate out:
$ce{Ca(NO3)2}$ has a solubility of around 1200 g/L (!) while $ce{Ca3(PO4)2}$ is insoluble.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
You won't have the neutral salt, and the acidic phosphates are more soluble.
$endgroup$
– Ivan Neretin
5 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If you have a soluble calcium salt, you can add that to a solution of your powder. Calcium nitrate is quite soluble, but calcium phosphate should precipitate out:
$ce{Ca(NO3)2}$ has a solubility of around 1200 g/L (!) while $ce{Ca3(PO4)2}$ is insoluble.
$endgroup$
If you have a soluble calcium salt, you can add that to a solution of your powder. Calcium nitrate is quite soluble, but calcium phosphate should precipitate out:
$ce{Ca(NO3)2}$ has a solubility of around 1200 g/L (!) while $ce{Ca3(PO4)2}$ is insoluble.
answered 6 hours ago
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You won't have the neutral salt, and the acidic phosphates are more soluble.
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– Ivan Neretin
5 hours ago
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You won't have the neutral salt, and the acidic phosphates are more soluble.
$endgroup$
– Ivan Neretin
5 hours ago
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You won't have the neutral salt, and the acidic phosphates are more soluble.
$endgroup$
– Ivan Neretin
5 hours ago
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You won't have the neutral salt, and the acidic phosphates are more soluble.
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– Ivan Neretin
5 hours ago
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KNO3 is much better soluble in water.
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– Mithoron
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I'm a bit confused by the question. Are you asking how to differentiate between $ce{KNO3}$ and $ce{KH2PO4}$, or are you asking how to identify each of these salts from the multitude of other inorganic salts?
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– MaxW
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