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Does dispel magic end a master's control over their undead?
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Ok, there is a lot of discussion about dispelling undead creatures and according to Sage Advice Dispel Magic does not work this way:
Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field?
Whenever you wonder whether a spell’s effects can be dispelled or suspended, you need to answer one question: is the spell’s duration instantaneous? If the answer is yes, there is nothing to dispel or suspend.
At the same time the Animate Dead description says:
The creature is under your control for 24 hours, after which it stops obeying any Command you've given it. To maintain the control of the creature for another 24 hours, you must cast this spell on the creature again before the current 24-hour period ends.
Although the undead creature has been raised the caster obviously has temporary control over it. Some monsters from MM have an ability to dispel magic which could come in handy for the DM when the party has a necromancer.
Please note: I'm aware of the discussion around whether dispel magic could 'unanimate' an animated corpse. It's clear to me that it couldn't according to RAW. That seems to be what's covered in this related question.
However, I'm asking a different, distinct question. An animator's control of undead is temporary (24hours).
Could dispel magic simply remove the caster's control of the undead, leaving the undead still animated but now outside of the spellcaster's control?
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Ok, there is a lot of discussion about dispelling undead creatures and according to Sage Advice Dispel Magic does not work this way:
Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field?
Whenever you wonder whether a spell’s effects can be dispelled or suspended, you need to answer one question: is the spell’s duration instantaneous? If the answer is yes, there is nothing to dispel or suspend.
At the same time the Animate Dead description says:
The creature is under your control for 24 hours, after which it stops obeying any Command you've given it. To maintain the control of the creature for another 24 hours, you must cast this spell on the creature again before the current 24-hour period ends.
Although the undead creature has been raised the caster obviously has temporary control over it. Some monsters from MM have an ability to dispel magic which could come in handy for the DM when the party has a necromancer.
Please note: I'm aware of the discussion around whether dispel magic could 'unanimate' an animated corpse. It's clear to me that it couldn't according to RAW. That seems to be what's covered in this related question.
However, I'm asking a different, distinct question. An animator's control of undead is temporary (24hours).
Could dispel magic simply remove the caster's control of the undead, leaving the undead still animated but now outside of the spellcaster's control?
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I think I understad why you don't think this is a duplicate Reistr. I'm not sure if you've fully persuaded me, but I have edited your question to try and make your reasoning a little clearer. Could you check it still matches you intent? Feel free to rollback my edit if not.
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Ok, there is a lot of discussion about dispelling undead creatures and according to Sage Advice Dispel Magic does not work this way:
Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field?
Whenever you wonder whether a spell’s effects can be dispelled or suspended, you need to answer one question: is the spell’s duration instantaneous? If the answer is yes, there is nothing to dispel or suspend.
At the same time the Animate Dead description says:
The creature is under your control for 24 hours, after which it stops obeying any Command you've given it. To maintain the control of the creature for another 24 hours, you must cast this spell on the creature again before the current 24-hour period ends.
Although the undead creature has been raised the caster obviously has temporary control over it. Some monsters from MM have an ability to dispel magic which could come in handy for the DM when the party has a necromancer.
Please note: I'm aware of the discussion around whether dispel magic could 'unanimate' an animated corpse. It's clear to me that it couldn't according to RAW. That seems to be what's covered in this related question.
However, I'm asking a different, distinct question. An animator's control of undead is temporary (24hours).
Could dispel magic simply remove the caster's control of the undead, leaving the undead still animated but now outside of the spellcaster's control?
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Ok, there is a lot of discussion about dispelling undead creatures and according to Sage Advice Dispel Magic does not work this way:
Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field?
Whenever you wonder whether a spell’s effects can be dispelled or suspended, you need to answer one question: is the spell’s duration instantaneous? If the answer is yes, there is nothing to dispel or suspend.
At the same time the Animate Dead description says:
The creature is under your control for 24 hours, after which it stops obeying any Command you've given it. To maintain the control of the creature for another 24 hours, you must cast this spell on the creature again before the current 24-hour period ends.
Although the undead creature has been raised the caster obviously has temporary control over it. Some monsters from MM have an ability to dispel magic which could come in handy for the DM when the party has a necromancer.
Please note: I'm aware of the discussion around whether dispel magic could 'unanimate' an animated corpse. It's clear to me that it couldn't according to RAW. That seems to be what's covered in this related question.
However, I'm asking a different, distinct question. An animator's control of undead is temporary (24hours).
Could dispel magic simply remove the caster's control of the undead, leaving the undead still animated but now outside of the spellcaster's control?
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I think I understad why you don't think this is a duplicate Reistr. I'm not sure if you've fully persuaded me, but I have edited your question to try and make your reasoning a little clearer. Could you check it still matches you intent? Feel free to rollback my edit if not.
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I think I understad why you don't think this is a duplicate Reistr. I'm not sure if you've fully persuaded me, but I have edited your question to try and make your reasoning a little clearer. Could you check it still matches you intent? Feel free to rollback my edit if not.
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I think I understad why you don't think this is a duplicate Reistr. I'm not sure if you've fully persuaded me, but I have edited your question to try and make your reasoning a little clearer. Could you check it still matches you intent? Feel free to rollback my edit if not.
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I think I understad why you don't think this is a duplicate Reistr. I'm not sure if you've fully persuaded me, but I have edited your question to try and make your reasoning a little clearer. Could you check it still matches you intent? Feel free to rollback my edit if not.
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No it does not.
The Dispel Magic description says:
Choose one object, creature, or magic effect within range. Any spell of 3rd level or lower on the target ends.
And Animate dead has a duration of:
Duration: Instantaneous
So there is no spell effect to dispel as Animate Dead has a duration of instantaneous, so as Dispel Magic only works on a spell it has nothing to work on and does nothing. Also clearly stated here stated in this Sage Advice:
Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field? Whenever you wonder whether a spell’s effects can be dispelled or suspended, you need to answer one question: is the spell’s duration instantaneous? If the answer is yes, there is nothing to dispel or suspend.
The control of the undead granted by the spell is a consequence of the spell being cast, not an on-going magical effect, in the same sense as the fires started by a fireball are an on-going non-magical effect. The zombies are strictly loyal to the caster for a period of time, bonded to them like ducklings are to their mother, and in the same way the fires and damage from a fireball last for a period of time and cannot be dispelled, neither can this bond.
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Thanks, you made things clear from RAW point of view. I've missed that "duration instantaneous" which is addressed by SA is actually a game mechanics term. Not a native english speaker.
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That is a tricky question, asked (at least elsewhere) by a lot of people.
If you go strictly by the rules, spells with a duration of "instantaneous" cannot be dispelled, nor are affected by things like Antimagic Field. This has been officially answered before, at least concerning the general dispelling of undead animated by the spell.
Personally I think this one calls for a DM ruling instead. There is a clear case why a DM could rule that the 24 hour control -effect is something you can dispel or does not work in an Antimagic Field; it has a duration, range of 60 feet and it must be "renewed" by another casting of Animate Dead. Since the undead are controllable only within 60 feet of the caster, as a DM I'd also might rule that the command it was last given, for example "attack the persons in this room" will be carried out "indefinitely" until completed, after which the undead do what the spell says they will do unless commanded (they're not much for thinking for themselves, after all).
But until there is a official ruling, I'd recommend making a house rule and sticking with it.
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I don't understand what you mean by "until there's an official ruling". The link Sage Advice link already answers this question explicitly officially.
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The Sage Advice answers only the question whether the undead created can be destroyed ("un-animated") by a Dispel Magic. It doesn't comment on whether the control effect can be dispelled from an individual undead or the caster himself. (" Casting dispel magic on the creature can’t end its mockery of life")
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not true! Look at the question "Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field?" Nothing about destroying. The question and answer are only about if the spell can be used on it for any reason. The it provides a clear answer to the question: no it cannot according to the rules. There is simply no spell left to dispel.
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No it does not.
The Dispel Magic description says:
Choose one object, creature, or magic effect within range. Any spell of 3rd level or lower on the target ends.
And Animate dead has a duration of:
Duration: Instantaneous
So there is no spell effect to dispel as Animate Dead has a duration of instantaneous, so as Dispel Magic only works on a spell it has nothing to work on and does nothing. Also clearly stated here stated in this Sage Advice:
Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field? Whenever you wonder whether a spell’s effects can be dispelled or suspended, you need to answer one question: is the spell’s duration instantaneous? If the answer is yes, there is nothing to dispel or suspend.
The control of the undead granted by the spell is a consequence of the spell being cast, not an on-going magical effect, in the same sense as the fires started by a fireball are an on-going non-magical effect. The zombies are strictly loyal to the caster for a period of time, bonded to them like ducklings are to their mother, and in the same way the fires and damage from a fireball last for a period of time and cannot be dispelled, neither can this bond.
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Thanks, you made things clear from RAW point of view. I've missed that "duration instantaneous" which is addressed by SA is actually a game mechanics term. Not a native english speaker.
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No it does not.
The Dispel Magic description says:
Choose one object, creature, or magic effect within range. Any spell of 3rd level or lower on the target ends.
And Animate dead has a duration of:
Duration: Instantaneous
So there is no spell effect to dispel as Animate Dead has a duration of instantaneous, so as Dispel Magic only works on a spell it has nothing to work on and does nothing. Also clearly stated here stated in this Sage Advice:
Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field? Whenever you wonder whether a spell’s effects can be dispelled or suspended, you need to answer one question: is the spell’s duration instantaneous? If the answer is yes, there is nothing to dispel or suspend.
The control of the undead granted by the spell is a consequence of the spell being cast, not an on-going magical effect, in the same sense as the fires started by a fireball are an on-going non-magical effect. The zombies are strictly loyal to the caster for a period of time, bonded to them like ducklings are to their mother, and in the same way the fires and damage from a fireball last for a period of time and cannot be dispelled, neither can this bond.
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Thanks, you made things clear from RAW point of view. I've missed that "duration instantaneous" which is addressed by SA is actually a game mechanics term. Not a native english speaker.
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– Reistr
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No it does not.
The Dispel Magic description says:
Choose one object, creature, or magic effect within range. Any spell of 3rd level or lower on the target ends.
And Animate dead has a duration of:
Duration: Instantaneous
So there is no spell effect to dispel as Animate Dead has a duration of instantaneous, so as Dispel Magic only works on a spell it has nothing to work on and does nothing. Also clearly stated here stated in this Sage Advice:
Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field? Whenever you wonder whether a spell’s effects can be dispelled or suspended, you need to answer one question: is the spell’s duration instantaneous? If the answer is yes, there is nothing to dispel or suspend.
The control of the undead granted by the spell is a consequence of the spell being cast, not an on-going magical effect, in the same sense as the fires started by a fireball are an on-going non-magical effect. The zombies are strictly loyal to the caster for a period of time, bonded to them like ducklings are to their mother, and in the same way the fires and damage from a fireball last for a period of time and cannot be dispelled, neither can this bond.
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No it does not.
The Dispel Magic description says:
Choose one object, creature, or magic effect within range. Any spell of 3rd level or lower on the target ends.
And Animate dead has a duration of:
Duration: Instantaneous
So there is no spell effect to dispel as Animate Dead has a duration of instantaneous, so as Dispel Magic only works on a spell it has nothing to work on and does nothing. Also clearly stated here stated in this Sage Advice:
Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field? Whenever you wonder whether a spell’s effects can be dispelled or suspended, you need to answer one question: is the spell’s duration instantaneous? If the answer is yes, there is nothing to dispel or suspend.
The control of the undead granted by the spell is a consequence of the spell being cast, not an on-going magical effect, in the same sense as the fires started by a fireball are an on-going non-magical effect. The zombies are strictly loyal to the caster for a period of time, bonded to them like ducklings are to their mother, and in the same way the fires and damage from a fireball last for a period of time and cannot be dispelled, neither can this bond.
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Thanks, you made things clear from RAW point of view. I've missed that "duration instantaneous" which is addressed by SA is actually a game mechanics term. Not a native english speaker.
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– Reistr
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Thanks, you made things clear from RAW point of view. I've missed that "duration instantaneous" which is addressed by SA is actually a game mechanics term. Not a native english speaker.
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– Reistr
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Thanks, you made things clear from RAW point of view. I've missed that "duration instantaneous" which is addressed by SA is actually a game mechanics term. Not a native english speaker.
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– Reistr
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Thanks, you made things clear from RAW point of view. I've missed that "duration instantaneous" which is addressed by SA is actually a game mechanics term. Not a native english speaker.
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That is a tricky question, asked (at least elsewhere) by a lot of people.
If you go strictly by the rules, spells with a duration of "instantaneous" cannot be dispelled, nor are affected by things like Antimagic Field. This has been officially answered before, at least concerning the general dispelling of undead animated by the spell.
Personally I think this one calls for a DM ruling instead. There is a clear case why a DM could rule that the 24 hour control -effect is something you can dispel or does not work in an Antimagic Field; it has a duration, range of 60 feet and it must be "renewed" by another casting of Animate Dead. Since the undead are controllable only within 60 feet of the caster, as a DM I'd also might rule that the command it was last given, for example "attack the persons in this room" will be carried out "indefinitely" until completed, after which the undead do what the spell says they will do unless commanded (they're not much for thinking for themselves, after all).
But until there is a official ruling, I'd recommend making a house rule and sticking with it.
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I don't understand what you mean by "until there's an official ruling". The link Sage Advice link already answers this question explicitly officially.
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– Rubiksmoose
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The Sage Advice answers only the question whether the undead created can be destroyed ("un-animated") by a Dispel Magic. It doesn't comment on whether the control effect can be dispelled from an individual undead or the caster himself. (" Casting dispel magic on the creature can’t end its mockery of life")
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not true! Look at the question "Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field?" Nothing about destroying. The question and answer are only about if the spell can be used on it for any reason. The it provides a clear answer to the question: no it cannot according to the rules. There is simply no spell left to dispel.
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– Rubiksmoose
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That is a tricky question, asked (at least elsewhere) by a lot of people.
If you go strictly by the rules, spells with a duration of "instantaneous" cannot be dispelled, nor are affected by things like Antimagic Field. This has been officially answered before, at least concerning the general dispelling of undead animated by the spell.
Personally I think this one calls for a DM ruling instead. There is a clear case why a DM could rule that the 24 hour control -effect is something you can dispel or does not work in an Antimagic Field; it has a duration, range of 60 feet and it must be "renewed" by another casting of Animate Dead. Since the undead are controllable only within 60 feet of the caster, as a DM I'd also might rule that the command it was last given, for example "attack the persons in this room" will be carried out "indefinitely" until completed, after which the undead do what the spell says they will do unless commanded (they're not much for thinking for themselves, after all).
But until there is a official ruling, I'd recommend making a house rule and sticking with it.
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I don't understand what you mean by "until there's an official ruling". The link Sage Advice link already answers this question explicitly officially.
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– Rubiksmoose
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The Sage Advice answers only the question whether the undead created can be destroyed ("un-animated") by a Dispel Magic. It doesn't comment on whether the control effect can be dispelled from an individual undead or the caster himself. (" Casting dispel magic on the creature can’t end its mockery of life")
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– DocWeird
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not true! Look at the question "Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field?" Nothing about destroying. The question and answer are only about if the spell can be used on it for any reason. The it provides a clear answer to the question: no it cannot according to the rules. There is simply no spell left to dispel.
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– Rubiksmoose
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That is a tricky question, asked (at least elsewhere) by a lot of people.
If you go strictly by the rules, spells with a duration of "instantaneous" cannot be dispelled, nor are affected by things like Antimagic Field. This has been officially answered before, at least concerning the general dispelling of undead animated by the spell.
Personally I think this one calls for a DM ruling instead. There is a clear case why a DM could rule that the 24 hour control -effect is something you can dispel or does not work in an Antimagic Field; it has a duration, range of 60 feet and it must be "renewed" by another casting of Animate Dead. Since the undead are controllable only within 60 feet of the caster, as a DM I'd also might rule that the command it was last given, for example "attack the persons in this room" will be carried out "indefinitely" until completed, after which the undead do what the spell says they will do unless commanded (they're not much for thinking for themselves, after all).
But until there is a official ruling, I'd recommend making a house rule and sticking with it.
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That is a tricky question, asked (at least elsewhere) by a lot of people.
If you go strictly by the rules, spells with a duration of "instantaneous" cannot be dispelled, nor are affected by things like Antimagic Field. This has been officially answered before, at least concerning the general dispelling of undead animated by the spell.
Personally I think this one calls for a DM ruling instead. There is a clear case why a DM could rule that the 24 hour control -effect is something you can dispel or does not work in an Antimagic Field; it has a duration, range of 60 feet and it must be "renewed" by another casting of Animate Dead. Since the undead are controllable only within 60 feet of the caster, as a DM I'd also might rule that the command it was last given, for example "attack the persons in this room" will be carried out "indefinitely" until completed, after which the undead do what the spell says they will do unless commanded (they're not much for thinking for themselves, after all).
But until there is a official ruling, I'd recommend making a house rule and sticking with it.
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I don't understand what you mean by "until there's an official ruling". The link Sage Advice link already answers this question explicitly officially.
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– Rubiksmoose
3 hours ago
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The Sage Advice answers only the question whether the undead created can be destroyed ("un-animated") by a Dispel Magic. It doesn't comment on whether the control effect can be dispelled from an individual undead or the caster himself. (" Casting dispel magic on the creature can’t end its mockery of life")
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– DocWeird
2 hours ago
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not true! Look at the question "Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field?" Nothing about destroying. The question and answer are only about if the spell can be used on it for any reason. The it provides a clear answer to the question: no it cannot according to the rules. There is simply no spell left to dispel.
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– Rubiksmoose
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I don't understand what you mean by "until there's an official ruling". The link Sage Advice link already answers this question explicitly officially.
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– Rubiksmoose
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The Sage Advice answers only the question whether the undead created can be destroyed ("un-animated") by a Dispel Magic. It doesn't comment on whether the control effect can be dispelled from an individual undead or the caster himself. (" Casting dispel magic on the creature can’t end its mockery of life")
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– DocWeird
2 hours ago
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not true! Look at the question "Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field?" Nothing about destroying. The question and answer are only about if the spell can be used on it for any reason. The it provides a clear answer to the question: no it cannot according to the rules. There is simply no spell left to dispel.
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– Rubiksmoose
1 hour ago
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I don't understand what you mean by "until there's an official ruling". The link Sage Advice link already answers this question explicitly officially.
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– Rubiksmoose
3 hours ago
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I don't understand what you mean by "until there's an official ruling". The link Sage Advice link already answers this question explicitly officially.
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– Rubiksmoose
3 hours ago
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The Sage Advice answers only the question whether the undead created can be destroyed ("un-animated") by a Dispel Magic. It doesn't comment on whether the control effect can be dispelled from an individual undead or the caster himself. (" Casting dispel magic on the creature can’t end its mockery of life")
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– DocWeird
2 hours ago
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The Sage Advice answers only the question whether the undead created can be destroyed ("un-animated") by a Dispel Magic. It doesn't comment on whether the control effect can be dispelled from an individual undead or the caster himself. (" Casting dispel magic on the creature can’t end its mockery of life")
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– DocWeird
2 hours ago
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not true! Look at the question "Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field?" Nothing about destroying. The question and answer are only about if the spell can be used on it for any reason. The it provides a clear answer to the question: no it cannot according to the rules. There is simply no spell left to dispel.
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– Rubiksmoose
1 hour ago
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not true! Look at the question "Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field?" Nothing about destroying. The question and answer are only about if the spell can be used on it for any reason. The it provides a clear answer to the question: no it cannot according to the rules. There is simply no spell left to dispel.
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– Rubiksmoose
1 hour ago
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Possible duplicate of Can you Dispel animated dead?
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– Tiggerous
5 hours ago
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I think I understad why you don't think this is a duplicate Reistr. I'm not sure if you've fully persuaded me, but I have edited your question to try and make your reasoning a little clearer. Could you check it still matches you intent? Feel free to rollback my edit if not.
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– Tiggerous
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