Does Skippy chunky peanut butter contain trans fat?Does having late or heavy dinner make you fat?Is peanut...
Let's Encrypt and EV certificates for different hosts in the same domain
How much mayhem could I cause as a sentient fish?
Does dispel magic end a master's control over their undead?
Citing paywalled articles accessed via illegal web sharing
With regard to distributive law of inner product in vector algebra
What is a good reason for every spaceship to carry a weapon on board?
Am I a Rude Number?
A starship is travelling at 0.9c and collides with a small rock. Will it leave a clean hole through, or will more happen?
How do you voice extended chords?
Is there a lava-breathing lizard creature (that could be worshipped by a cult) in 5e?
False written accusations not made public - is there law to cover this?
A curious equality of integrals involving the prime counting function?
Why don't key signatures indicate the tonic?
Eww, those bytes are gross
Cat is tipping over bed-side lamps during the night
Alien invasion to probe us, why?
When can a QA tester start his job?
How do you catch Smeargle in Pokemon Go?
Why is Agricola named as such?
Clues on how to solve these types of problems within 2-3 minutes for competitive exams
What to look for when criticizing poetry?
Why is it that Bernie Sanders is always called a "socialist"?
Why did Democrats in the Senate oppose the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act (2019 S.130)?
How does Leonard in "Memento" remember reading and writing?
Does Skippy chunky peanut butter contain trans fat?
Does having late or heavy dinner make you fat?Is peanut butter good for removing gum?Does organic butter have more Omega-3 fat than conventional butter?Does eating trans fatty acids affect immune response?Does Forskolin help to break down fat?Does bread contain traces of alcohol?Does the average American Thanksgiving meal contain 4,500 Calories?Does ghee help burn body fat?Does butter increase nutrient uptake of other foods, especially compared to using margarine?Does Condensed Milk Contain Milk?
According to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter does not contain trans fat.
However, the current label for their chunky peanut butter contains the following ingredient in the listing: Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil (Cottonseed, Soybean and Rapeseed Oil) To Prevent Separation.
Soybean oil is a known source of trans fat, which can be a source of atherosclerosis – the clogging of arteries with plaque – which can be a cause of heart attacks.
Is their website just blatantly lying about the lack of trans fat?
nutrition
New contributor
|
show 1 more comment
According to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter does not contain trans fat.
However, the current label for their chunky peanut butter contains the following ingredient in the listing: Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil (Cottonseed, Soybean and Rapeseed Oil) To Prevent Separation.
Soybean oil is a known source of trans fat, which can be a source of atherosclerosis – the clogging of arteries with plaque – which can be a cause of heart attacks.
Is their website just blatantly lying about the lack of trans fat?
nutrition
New contributor
5
Could it be that local law allows "...has zero grams per serving." meaning "...has less than one gram per serving."?
– npst
yesterday
1
I thought hydrogenated oils was trans-fat, not just soybean oil. So hydrogenated canola (rapeseed) oil would also be trans-fat, right?
– Chloe
22 hours ago
1
@Chloe Only partially hydrogenated oil contains trans fat and the only partially hydrogenated oil is the soy bean oil. The other oils are fully hydrogenated, so they do not contain trans fat.
– Chris Redford
21 hours ago
Are you sure the soybean oil is partially hydrogenated? Where does it say that?
– iamnotmaynard
9 hours ago
1
Trans fats are not entirely unnatural. They can develop at low levels during mechanical processing and product storage from the original form. So without legal permission to use 0 to represent "negligible" or "trace", it can't ever be strictly true. Such levels are not a health hazard -- "The poison is in the dose". Of course, the levels in chemically partially hydrogenated fats are completely off the scale of natural occurrence, and do represent a health hazard.
– nigel222
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
According to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter does not contain trans fat.
However, the current label for their chunky peanut butter contains the following ingredient in the listing: Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil (Cottonseed, Soybean and Rapeseed Oil) To Prevent Separation.
Soybean oil is a known source of trans fat, which can be a source of atherosclerosis – the clogging of arteries with plaque – which can be a cause of heart attacks.
Is their website just blatantly lying about the lack of trans fat?
nutrition
New contributor
According to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter does not contain trans fat.
However, the current label for their chunky peanut butter contains the following ingredient in the listing: Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil (Cottonseed, Soybean and Rapeseed Oil) To Prevent Separation.
Soybean oil is a known source of trans fat, which can be a source of atherosclerosis – the clogging of arteries with plaque – which can be a cause of heart attacks.
Is their website just blatantly lying about the lack of trans fat?
nutrition
nutrition
New contributor
New contributor
edited 21 hours ago
George Grainger
1505
1505
New contributor
asked yesterday
Chris RedfordChris Redford
22628
22628
New contributor
New contributor
5
Could it be that local law allows "...has zero grams per serving." meaning "...has less than one gram per serving."?
– npst
yesterday
1
I thought hydrogenated oils was trans-fat, not just soybean oil. So hydrogenated canola (rapeseed) oil would also be trans-fat, right?
– Chloe
22 hours ago
1
@Chloe Only partially hydrogenated oil contains trans fat and the only partially hydrogenated oil is the soy bean oil. The other oils are fully hydrogenated, so they do not contain trans fat.
– Chris Redford
21 hours ago
Are you sure the soybean oil is partially hydrogenated? Where does it say that?
– iamnotmaynard
9 hours ago
1
Trans fats are not entirely unnatural. They can develop at low levels during mechanical processing and product storage from the original form. So without legal permission to use 0 to represent "negligible" or "trace", it can't ever be strictly true. Such levels are not a health hazard -- "The poison is in the dose". Of course, the levels in chemically partially hydrogenated fats are completely off the scale of natural occurrence, and do represent a health hazard.
– nigel222
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
5
Could it be that local law allows "...has zero grams per serving." meaning "...has less than one gram per serving."?
– npst
yesterday
1
I thought hydrogenated oils was trans-fat, not just soybean oil. So hydrogenated canola (rapeseed) oil would also be trans-fat, right?
– Chloe
22 hours ago
1
@Chloe Only partially hydrogenated oil contains trans fat and the only partially hydrogenated oil is the soy bean oil. The other oils are fully hydrogenated, so they do not contain trans fat.
– Chris Redford
21 hours ago
Are you sure the soybean oil is partially hydrogenated? Where does it say that?
– iamnotmaynard
9 hours ago
1
Trans fats are not entirely unnatural. They can develop at low levels during mechanical processing and product storage from the original form. So without legal permission to use 0 to represent "negligible" or "trace", it can't ever be strictly true. Such levels are not a health hazard -- "The poison is in the dose". Of course, the levels in chemically partially hydrogenated fats are completely off the scale of natural occurrence, and do represent a health hazard.
– nigel222
3 hours ago
5
5
Could it be that local law allows "...has zero grams per serving." meaning "...has less than one gram per serving."?
– npst
yesterday
Could it be that local law allows "...has zero grams per serving." meaning "...has less than one gram per serving."?
– npst
yesterday
1
1
I thought hydrogenated oils was trans-fat, not just soybean oil. So hydrogenated canola (rapeseed) oil would also be trans-fat, right?
– Chloe
22 hours ago
I thought hydrogenated oils was trans-fat, not just soybean oil. So hydrogenated canola (rapeseed) oil would also be trans-fat, right?
– Chloe
22 hours ago
1
1
@Chloe Only partially hydrogenated oil contains trans fat and the only partially hydrogenated oil is the soy bean oil. The other oils are fully hydrogenated, so they do not contain trans fat.
– Chris Redford
21 hours ago
@Chloe Only partially hydrogenated oil contains trans fat and the only partially hydrogenated oil is the soy bean oil. The other oils are fully hydrogenated, so they do not contain trans fat.
– Chris Redford
21 hours ago
Are you sure the soybean oil is partially hydrogenated? Where does it say that?
– iamnotmaynard
9 hours ago
Are you sure the soybean oil is partially hydrogenated? Where does it say that?
– iamnotmaynard
9 hours ago
1
1
Trans fats are not entirely unnatural. They can develop at low levels during mechanical processing and product storage from the original form. So without legal permission to use 0 to represent "negligible" or "trace", it can't ever be strictly true. Such levels are not a health hazard -- "The poison is in the dose". Of course, the levels in chemically partially hydrogenated fats are completely off the scale of natural occurrence, and do represent a health hazard.
– nigel222
3 hours ago
Trans fats are not entirely unnatural. They can develop at low levels during mechanical processing and product storage from the original form. So without legal permission to use 0 to represent "negligible" or "trace", it can't ever be strictly true. Such levels are not a health hazard -- "The poison is in the dose". Of course, the levels in chemically partially hydrogenated fats are completely off the scale of natural occurrence, and do represent a health hazard.
– nigel222
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
According to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter does not contain trans fat.
Strictly speaking, according to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter contains a negligible amount of trans fat. Per the US FDA,
The Nutrition Facts Label can state 0 g of trans fat if the food product contains less than 0.5 g of trans fat per serving. Thus, if a product contains partially hydrogenated oils, then it might contain small amounts of trans fat even if the label says 0 g of trans fat.
So they're being sneaky, right? Not really. The amount of trans fat in a serving of peanut butter is far less than the limit of 0.5 grams that needs to be reported as above zero. Only a tiny amount of hydrogenated vegetable oil is added to peanut butter to make it smooth, prevent separation, and drastically increase shelf life, and only a small amount of that small amount is in the form of trans fat. While non-zero, the amount is essentially undetectable. From Sanders, T.H., 2001. Non-detectable levels of trans-fatty acids in peanut butter. Journal of agricultural and food chemistry, 49(5), pp.2349-2351,
The fatty acid composition of 11 brands of peanut butter and paste freshly prepared from roasted peanuts was analyzed with emphasis on isomeric trans-fatty acids. No trans-fatty acids were detected in any of the samples in an analytical system with a detection threshold of 0.01% of the sample weight. Hydrogenated vegetable oils are added to peanut butters at levels of 1--2% to prevent oil separation. Some hydrogenated vegetable oils are known to be sources of trans-fatty acids in the human diet. The addition of these products was not found to result in measurable amounts of trans-fatty acids in the peanut butters analyzed.
22
This is similar to the reason why Tic Tacs are labelled as sugar-free, despite consisting of almost nothing but sugar.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
56
@JanusBahsJacquet I don't think it's remotely similar. The serving size for Tic Tacs is 0.49 g (1 mint) so it couldn't possibly be above 0.5 g sugar per serving, and it is in fact mostly sugar. That is an extreme example highlighting the problem with setting these limits relative to serving size, which is a somewhat arbitrary concept (who eats just one Tic Tac?) . For Skippy peanut butter on the other hand, the serving size is 32 g, so less than 0.5 g trans fat means less than ~1.5%, and the study linked to in this answer shows that actual levels are less than 0.01%.
– jkej
yesterday
24
@JanusBahsJacquet, No, it's very different. Tic Tacs are 91% sugar by weight, but since a Tic Tac "serving" is less than 1/2 gram, Tic Tacs have less than the reportable amount of anything. Peanut butter on the other hand contains less than 0.01% trans fat by weight. You'd have to eat an institutional-sized jar of peanut butter as one serving in order to consume 0.5 grams of trans fat.
– David Hammen
yesterday
20
@jkej Actually, it’s not only similar, but identical: the reason in both cases is that the limit is ‘hard-coded’ at 0.5g regardless of percentual content. In both cases it leads to misleading labelling, it’s just much more misleading. Naturally, the situations are very different between the two, but the underlying reason is the same.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
8
And if anyone is curious about the italicization: english.stackexchange.com/questions/170273/…
– Acccumulation
yesterday
|
show 9 more comments
I note that the label says "Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil" not "Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil". If the oil has been fully hydrogenated it no longer contains trans fats, by definition.
Unfortunately you can't know whether an oil has been fully or partially hydrogenated when the label omits those qualifiers. It seems highly likely to me that the manufacturer did this intentionally to avoid the negative stigma associated with partial hydrogenation. It would be wise to assume partial hydrogenation when "Fully" is absent.
A fully hydrogenated oil by itself will be solid at room temperature but I cannot say what would happen to an fully hydrogenated oil suspended in a matrix of peanut bits.
http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food/article/hydrogenated-oils for more information on hydrogenation and health.
https://www.nationalpeanutboard.org/wellness/why-you-shouldnt-be-scared-oil-in-your-peanut-butter.htm for a highly biased take on the oils used in peanut butter across the industry.
New contributor
2
"It seems highly likely to me that the manufacturer did this intentionally to avoid the negative stigma associated with partial hydrogenation." But partially hydrogenated oil typically consists of 30-40% trans fat and according to the study cited in David Hammen's answer, peanut butter typically contains 1-2% hydrogenated vegetable oil. That would give 0.3-0.8% trans fat in the peanut butter, but the study couldn't detect any trans fat (with a detection limit of 0.01%). So either it's fully hydrogenated, or they have some way of doing partial hydrogenation without producing trans fat.
– jkej
yesterday
2
So perhaps the marketing directive behind omitting the partial/full qualifier is "keep the ingredient list as short as possible".
– Timbo
yesterday
2
Interesting. JIF's labeling makes a point of stating that theirs is fully hydrogenated. Perhaps Skippy's is a blend of fully and partially.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
add a comment |
The FDA has determined that Partially Hydrogenated Oils are not Generally Recognized as Safe (or GRAS) and has established rules for their elimination from the US food supply:
https://www.fda.gov/food/ingredientspackaginglabeling/foodadditivesingredients/ucm449162.htm
If any food still contains trans-fat, it won't for long; they are being removed from all foods.
9
That's all well and good, but it doesn't answer the question of whether Skippy peanut butter contains trans fat or not.
– Mark
yesterday
1
True, but in some ways it does. The FDA order is 3 or 4 years old. Every manufacturer of food products has been working to remove to remove trans fats from their product recipes (trans fats are not natural, they are manufactured). If a manufacturer proclaims their product Trans Fat free on their web site, then it should be trans fat free. I wouldn't be surprised for the FDA to eventually make a rule saying that products can't say "trans fat free" - all products will meet that spec. I agree the accepted answer is correct. But, I thought this information was relevant (& more than a comment)
– Flydog57
yesterday
2
Re If any food still contains trans-fat, it won't for long; they are being removed from all foods. That just isn't true. Some foods naturally contain trans fatty acids; the FDA is not banning such foods. What it is doing is making it very, very difficult (if not impossible) to use vegetable oils that are intentionally partially hydrogenated. What about fully hydrogenated vegetable oils? They'll remain okay for use in foods. The problem is that those fully hydrogenated vegetable oils aren't 100% fully hydrogenated. They inevitably contain small amounts of trans fatty acids.
– David Hammen
yesterday
2
@Flydog57 - Re trans fats are not natural -- Cattle in particular are rather good at manufacturing trans fatty acids. Beef contains a good amount, as do dairy products. So do other meat-based products. Some trans fatty acids occur naturally. While partially hydrogenated vegetable oils apparently do compound the problem raised by trans fatty acids, the distinction between "natural" vs. "artificial" trans fatty acids themselves is rather artificial (pun intended). That said, it's good advice to reduce ones intake of ground beef and butter.
– David Hammen
yesterday
1
Doesn't answer the question
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
|
show 1 more comment
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
According to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter does not contain trans fat.
Strictly speaking, according to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter contains a negligible amount of trans fat. Per the US FDA,
The Nutrition Facts Label can state 0 g of trans fat if the food product contains less than 0.5 g of trans fat per serving. Thus, if a product contains partially hydrogenated oils, then it might contain small amounts of trans fat even if the label says 0 g of trans fat.
So they're being sneaky, right? Not really. The amount of trans fat in a serving of peanut butter is far less than the limit of 0.5 grams that needs to be reported as above zero. Only a tiny amount of hydrogenated vegetable oil is added to peanut butter to make it smooth, prevent separation, and drastically increase shelf life, and only a small amount of that small amount is in the form of trans fat. While non-zero, the amount is essentially undetectable. From Sanders, T.H., 2001. Non-detectable levels of trans-fatty acids in peanut butter. Journal of agricultural and food chemistry, 49(5), pp.2349-2351,
The fatty acid composition of 11 brands of peanut butter and paste freshly prepared from roasted peanuts was analyzed with emphasis on isomeric trans-fatty acids. No trans-fatty acids were detected in any of the samples in an analytical system with a detection threshold of 0.01% of the sample weight. Hydrogenated vegetable oils are added to peanut butters at levels of 1--2% to prevent oil separation. Some hydrogenated vegetable oils are known to be sources of trans-fatty acids in the human diet. The addition of these products was not found to result in measurable amounts of trans-fatty acids in the peanut butters analyzed.
22
This is similar to the reason why Tic Tacs are labelled as sugar-free, despite consisting of almost nothing but sugar.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
56
@JanusBahsJacquet I don't think it's remotely similar. The serving size for Tic Tacs is 0.49 g (1 mint) so it couldn't possibly be above 0.5 g sugar per serving, and it is in fact mostly sugar. That is an extreme example highlighting the problem with setting these limits relative to serving size, which is a somewhat arbitrary concept (who eats just one Tic Tac?) . For Skippy peanut butter on the other hand, the serving size is 32 g, so less than 0.5 g trans fat means less than ~1.5%, and the study linked to in this answer shows that actual levels are less than 0.01%.
– jkej
yesterday
24
@JanusBahsJacquet, No, it's very different. Tic Tacs are 91% sugar by weight, but since a Tic Tac "serving" is less than 1/2 gram, Tic Tacs have less than the reportable amount of anything. Peanut butter on the other hand contains less than 0.01% trans fat by weight. You'd have to eat an institutional-sized jar of peanut butter as one serving in order to consume 0.5 grams of trans fat.
– David Hammen
yesterday
20
@jkej Actually, it’s not only similar, but identical: the reason in both cases is that the limit is ‘hard-coded’ at 0.5g regardless of percentual content. In both cases it leads to misleading labelling, it’s just much more misleading. Naturally, the situations are very different between the two, but the underlying reason is the same.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
8
And if anyone is curious about the italicization: english.stackexchange.com/questions/170273/…
– Acccumulation
yesterday
|
show 9 more comments
According to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter does not contain trans fat.
Strictly speaking, according to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter contains a negligible amount of trans fat. Per the US FDA,
The Nutrition Facts Label can state 0 g of trans fat if the food product contains less than 0.5 g of trans fat per serving. Thus, if a product contains partially hydrogenated oils, then it might contain small amounts of trans fat even if the label says 0 g of trans fat.
So they're being sneaky, right? Not really. The amount of trans fat in a serving of peanut butter is far less than the limit of 0.5 grams that needs to be reported as above zero. Only a tiny amount of hydrogenated vegetable oil is added to peanut butter to make it smooth, prevent separation, and drastically increase shelf life, and only a small amount of that small amount is in the form of trans fat. While non-zero, the amount is essentially undetectable. From Sanders, T.H., 2001. Non-detectable levels of trans-fatty acids in peanut butter. Journal of agricultural and food chemistry, 49(5), pp.2349-2351,
The fatty acid composition of 11 brands of peanut butter and paste freshly prepared from roasted peanuts was analyzed with emphasis on isomeric trans-fatty acids. No trans-fatty acids were detected in any of the samples in an analytical system with a detection threshold of 0.01% of the sample weight. Hydrogenated vegetable oils are added to peanut butters at levels of 1--2% to prevent oil separation. Some hydrogenated vegetable oils are known to be sources of trans-fatty acids in the human diet. The addition of these products was not found to result in measurable amounts of trans-fatty acids in the peanut butters analyzed.
22
This is similar to the reason why Tic Tacs are labelled as sugar-free, despite consisting of almost nothing but sugar.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
56
@JanusBahsJacquet I don't think it's remotely similar. The serving size for Tic Tacs is 0.49 g (1 mint) so it couldn't possibly be above 0.5 g sugar per serving, and it is in fact mostly sugar. That is an extreme example highlighting the problem with setting these limits relative to serving size, which is a somewhat arbitrary concept (who eats just one Tic Tac?) . For Skippy peanut butter on the other hand, the serving size is 32 g, so less than 0.5 g trans fat means less than ~1.5%, and the study linked to in this answer shows that actual levels are less than 0.01%.
– jkej
yesterday
24
@JanusBahsJacquet, No, it's very different. Tic Tacs are 91% sugar by weight, but since a Tic Tac "serving" is less than 1/2 gram, Tic Tacs have less than the reportable amount of anything. Peanut butter on the other hand contains less than 0.01% trans fat by weight. You'd have to eat an institutional-sized jar of peanut butter as one serving in order to consume 0.5 grams of trans fat.
– David Hammen
yesterday
20
@jkej Actually, it’s not only similar, but identical: the reason in both cases is that the limit is ‘hard-coded’ at 0.5g regardless of percentual content. In both cases it leads to misleading labelling, it’s just much more misleading. Naturally, the situations are very different between the two, but the underlying reason is the same.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
8
And if anyone is curious about the italicization: english.stackexchange.com/questions/170273/…
– Acccumulation
yesterday
|
show 9 more comments
According to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter does not contain trans fat.
Strictly speaking, according to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter contains a negligible amount of trans fat. Per the US FDA,
The Nutrition Facts Label can state 0 g of trans fat if the food product contains less than 0.5 g of trans fat per serving. Thus, if a product contains partially hydrogenated oils, then it might contain small amounts of trans fat even if the label says 0 g of trans fat.
So they're being sneaky, right? Not really. The amount of trans fat in a serving of peanut butter is far less than the limit of 0.5 grams that needs to be reported as above zero. Only a tiny amount of hydrogenated vegetable oil is added to peanut butter to make it smooth, prevent separation, and drastically increase shelf life, and only a small amount of that small amount is in the form of trans fat. While non-zero, the amount is essentially undetectable. From Sanders, T.H., 2001. Non-detectable levels of trans-fatty acids in peanut butter. Journal of agricultural and food chemistry, 49(5), pp.2349-2351,
The fatty acid composition of 11 brands of peanut butter and paste freshly prepared from roasted peanuts was analyzed with emphasis on isomeric trans-fatty acids. No trans-fatty acids were detected in any of the samples in an analytical system with a detection threshold of 0.01% of the sample weight. Hydrogenated vegetable oils are added to peanut butters at levels of 1--2% to prevent oil separation. Some hydrogenated vegetable oils are known to be sources of trans-fatty acids in the human diet. The addition of these products was not found to result in measurable amounts of trans-fatty acids in the peanut butters analyzed.
According to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter does not contain trans fat.
Strictly speaking, according to their website, Skippy brand peanut butter contains a negligible amount of trans fat. Per the US FDA,
The Nutrition Facts Label can state 0 g of trans fat if the food product contains less than 0.5 g of trans fat per serving. Thus, if a product contains partially hydrogenated oils, then it might contain small amounts of trans fat even if the label says 0 g of trans fat.
So they're being sneaky, right? Not really. The amount of trans fat in a serving of peanut butter is far less than the limit of 0.5 grams that needs to be reported as above zero. Only a tiny amount of hydrogenated vegetable oil is added to peanut butter to make it smooth, prevent separation, and drastically increase shelf life, and only a small amount of that small amount is in the form of trans fat. While non-zero, the amount is essentially undetectable. From Sanders, T.H., 2001. Non-detectable levels of trans-fatty acids in peanut butter. Journal of agricultural and food chemistry, 49(5), pp.2349-2351,
The fatty acid composition of 11 brands of peanut butter and paste freshly prepared from roasted peanuts was analyzed with emphasis on isomeric trans-fatty acids. No trans-fatty acids were detected in any of the samples in an analytical system with a detection threshold of 0.01% of the sample weight. Hydrogenated vegetable oils are added to peanut butters at levels of 1--2% to prevent oil separation. Some hydrogenated vegetable oils are known to be sources of trans-fatty acids in the human diet. The addition of these products was not found to result in measurable amounts of trans-fatty acids in the peanut butters analyzed.
answered yesterday
David HammenDavid Hammen
6,58632830
6,58632830
22
This is similar to the reason why Tic Tacs are labelled as sugar-free, despite consisting of almost nothing but sugar.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
56
@JanusBahsJacquet I don't think it's remotely similar. The serving size for Tic Tacs is 0.49 g (1 mint) so it couldn't possibly be above 0.5 g sugar per serving, and it is in fact mostly sugar. That is an extreme example highlighting the problem with setting these limits relative to serving size, which is a somewhat arbitrary concept (who eats just one Tic Tac?) . For Skippy peanut butter on the other hand, the serving size is 32 g, so less than 0.5 g trans fat means less than ~1.5%, and the study linked to in this answer shows that actual levels are less than 0.01%.
– jkej
yesterday
24
@JanusBahsJacquet, No, it's very different. Tic Tacs are 91% sugar by weight, but since a Tic Tac "serving" is less than 1/2 gram, Tic Tacs have less than the reportable amount of anything. Peanut butter on the other hand contains less than 0.01% trans fat by weight. You'd have to eat an institutional-sized jar of peanut butter as one serving in order to consume 0.5 grams of trans fat.
– David Hammen
yesterday
20
@jkej Actually, it’s not only similar, but identical: the reason in both cases is that the limit is ‘hard-coded’ at 0.5g regardless of percentual content. In both cases it leads to misleading labelling, it’s just much more misleading. Naturally, the situations are very different between the two, but the underlying reason is the same.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
8
And if anyone is curious about the italicization: english.stackexchange.com/questions/170273/…
– Acccumulation
yesterday
|
show 9 more comments
22
This is similar to the reason why Tic Tacs are labelled as sugar-free, despite consisting of almost nothing but sugar.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
56
@JanusBahsJacquet I don't think it's remotely similar. The serving size for Tic Tacs is 0.49 g (1 mint) so it couldn't possibly be above 0.5 g sugar per serving, and it is in fact mostly sugar. That is an extreme example highlighting the problem with setting these limits relative to serving size, which is a somewhat arbitrary concept (who eats just one Tic Tac?) . For Skippy peanut butter on the other hand, the serving size is 32 g, so less than 0.5 g trans fat means less than ~1.5%, and the study linked to in this answer shows that actual levels are less than 0.01%.
– jkej
yesterday
24
@JanusBahsJacquet, No, it's very different. Tic Tacs are 91% sugar by weight, but since a Tic Tac "serving" is less than 1/2 gram, Tic Tacs have less than the reportable amount of anything. Peanut butter on the other hand contains less than 0.01% trans fat by weight. You'd have to eat an institutional-sized jar of peanut butter as one serving in order to consume 0.5 grams of trans fat.
– David Hammen
yesterday
20
@jkej Actually, it’s not only similar, but identical: the reason in both cases is that the limit is ‘hard-coded’ at 0.5g regardless of percentual content. In both cases it leads to misleading labelling, it’s just much more misleading. Naturally, the situations are very different between the two, but the underlying reason is the same.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
8
And if anyone is curious about the italicization: english.stackexchange.com/questions/170273/…
– Acccumulation
yesterday
22
22
This is similar to the reason why Tic Tacs are labelled as sugar-free, despite consisting of almost nothing but sugar.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
This is similar to the reason why Tic Tacs are labelled as sugar-free, despite consisting of almost nothing but sugar.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
56
56
@JanusBahsJacquet I don't think it's remotely similar. The serving size for Tic Tacs is 0.49 g (1 mint) so it couldn't possibly be above 0.5 g sugar per serving, and it is in fact mostly sugar. That is an extreme example highlighting the problem with setting these limits relative to serving size, which is a somewhat arbitrary concept (who eats just one Tic Tac?) . For Skippy peanut butter on the other hand, the serving size is 32 g, so less than 0.5 g trans fat means less than ~1.5%, and the study linked to in this answer shows that actual levels are less than 0.01%.
– jkej
yesterday
@JanusBahsJacquet I don't think it's remotely similar. The serving size for Tic Tacs is 0.49 g (1 mint) so it couldn't possibly be above 0.5 g sugar per serving, and it is in fact mostly sugar. That is an extreme example highlighting the problem with setting these limits relative to serving size, which is a somewhat arbitrary concept (who eats just one Tic Tac?) . For Skippy peanut butter on the other hand, the serving size is 32 g, so less than 0.5 g trans fat means less than ~1.5%, and the study linked to in this answer shows that actual levels are less than 0.01%.
– jkej
yesterday
24
24
@JanusBahsJacquet, No, it's very different. Tic Tacs are 91% sugar by weight, but since a Tic Tac "serving" is less than 1/2 gram, Tic Tacs have less than the reportable amount of anything. Peanut butter on the other hand contains less than 0.01% trans fat by weight. You'd have to eat an institutional-sized jar of peanut butter as one serving in order to consume 0.5 grams of trans fat.
– David Hammen
yesterday
@JanusBahsJacquet, No, it's very different. Tic Tacs are 91% sugar by weight, but since a Tic Tac "serving" is less than 1/2 gram, Tic Tacs have less than the reportable amount of anything. Peanut butter on the other hand contains less than 0.01% trans fat by weight. You'd have to eat an institutional-sized jar of peanut butter as one serving in order to consume 0.5 grams of trans fat.
– David Hammen
yesterday
20
20
@jkej Actually, it’s not only similar, but identical: the reason in both cases is that the limit is ‘hard-coded’ at 0.5g regardless of percentual content. In both cases it leads to misleading labelling, it’s just much more misleading. Naturally, the situations are very different between the two, but the underlying reason is the same.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
@jkej Actually, it’s not only similar, but identical: the reason in both cases is that the limit is ‘hard-coded’ at 0.5g regardless of percentual content. In both cases it leads to misleading labelling, it’s just much more misleading. Naturally, the situations are very different between the two, but the underlying reason is the same.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
8
8
And if anyone is curious about the italicization: english.stackexchange.com/questions/170273/…
– Acccumulation
yesterday
And if anyone is curious about the italicization: english.stackexchange.com/questions/170273/…
– Acccumulation
yesterday
|
show 9 more comments
I note that the label says "Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil" not "Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil". If the oil has been fully hydrogenated it no longer contains trans fats, by definition.
Unfortunately you can't know whether an oil has been fully or partially hydrogenated when the label omits those qualifiers. It seems highly likely to me that the manufacturer did this intentionally to avoid the negative stigma associated with partial hydrogenation. It would be wise to assume partial hydrogenation when "Fully" is absent.
A fully hydrogenated oil by itself will be solid at room temperature but I cannot say what would happen to an fully hydrogenated oil suspended in a matrix of peanut bits.
http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food/article/hydrogenated-oils for more information on hydrogenation and health.
https://www.nationalpeanutboard.org/wellness/why-you-shouldnt-be-scared-oil-in-your-peanut-butter.htm for a highly biased take on the oils used in peanut butter across the industry.
New contributor
2
"It seems highly likely to me that the manufacturer did this intentionally to avoid the negative stigma associated with partial hydrogenation." But partially hydrogenated oil typically consists of 30-40% trans fat and according to the study cited in David Hammen's answer, peanut butter typically contains 1-2% hydrogenated vegetable oil. That would give 0.3-0.8% trans fat in the peanut butter, but the study couldn't detect any trans fat (with a detection limit of 0.01%). So either it's fully hydrogenated, or they have some way of doing partial hydrogenation without producing trans fat.
– jkej
yesterday
2
So perhaps the marketing directive behind omitting the partial/full qualifier is "keep the ingredient list as short as possible".
– Timbo
yesterday
2
Interesting. JIF's labeling makes a point of stating that theirs is fully hydrogenated. Perhaps Skippy's is a blend of fully and partially.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
add a comment |
I note that the label says "Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil" not "Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil". If the oil has been fully hydrogenated it no longer contains trans fats, by definition.
Unfortunately you can't know whether an oil has been fully or partially hydrogenated when the label omits those qualifiers. It seems highly likely to me that the manufacturer did this intentionally to avoid the negative stigma associated with partial hydrogenation. It would be wise to assume partial hydrogenation when "Fully" is absent.
A fully hydrogenated oil by itself will be solid at room temperature but I cannot say what would happen to an fully hydrogenated oil suspended in a matrix of peanut bits.
http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food/article/hydrogenated-oils for more information on hydrogenation and health.
https://www.nationalpeanutboard.org/wellness/why-you-shouldnt-be-scared-oil-in-your-peanut-butter.htm for a highly biased take on the oils used in peanut butter across the industry.
New contributor
2
"It seems highly likely to me that the manufacturer did this intentionally to avoid the negative stigma associated with partial hydrogenation." But partially hydrogenated oil typically consists of 30-40% trans fat and according to the study cited in David Hammen's answer, peanut butter typically contains 1-2% hydrogenated vegetable oil. That would give 0.3-0.8% trans fat in the peanut butter, but the study couldn't detect any trans fat (with a detection limit of 0.01%). So either it's fully hydrogenated, or they have some way of doing partial hydrogenation without producing trans fat.
– jkej
yesterday
2
So perhaps the marketing directive behind omitting the partial/full qualifier is "keep the ingredient list as short as possible".
– Timbo
yesterday
2
Interesting. JIF's labeling makes a point of stating that theirs is fully hydrogenated. Perhaps Skippy's is a blend of fully and partially.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
add a comment |
I note that the label says "Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil" not "Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil". If the oil has been fully hydrogenated it no longer contains trans fats, by definition.
Unfortunately you can't know whether an oil has been fully or partially hydrogenated when the label omits those qualifiers. It seems highly likely to me that the manufacturer did this intentionally to avoid the negative stigma associated with partial hydrogenation. It would be wise to assume partial hydrogenation when "Fully" is absent.
A fully hydrogenated oil by itself will be solid at room temperature but I cannot say what would happen to an fully hydrogenated oil suspended in a matrix of peanut bits.
http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food/article/hydrogenated-oils for more information on hydrogenation and health.
https://www.nationalpeanutboard.org/wellness/why-you-shouldnt-be-scared-oil-in-your-peanut-butter.htm for a highly biased take on the oils used in peanut butter across the industry.
New contributor
I note that the label says "Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil" not "Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil". If the oil has been fully hydrogenated it no longer contains trans fats, by definition.
Unfortunately you can't know whether an oil has been fully or partially hydrogenated when the label omits those qualifiers. It seems highly likely to me that the manufacturer did this intentionally to avoid the negative stigma associated with partial hydrogenation. It would be wise to assume partial hydrogenation when "Fully" is absent.
A fully hydrogenated oil by itself will be solid at room temperature but I cannot say what would happen to an fully hydrogenated oil suspended in a matrix of peanut bits.
http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food/article/hydrogenated-oils for more information on hydrogenation and health.
https://www.nationalpeanutboard.org/wellness/why-you-shouldnt-be-scared-oil-in-your-peanut-butter.htm for a highly biased take on the oils used in peanut butter across the industry.
New contributor
New contributor
answered yesterday
TimboTimbo
20113
20113
New contributor
New contributor
2
"It seems highly likely to me that the manufacturer did this intentionally to avoid the negative stigma associated with partial hydrogenation." But partially hydrogenated oil typically consists of 30-40% trans fat and according to the study cited in David Hammen's answer, peanut butter typically contains 1-2% hydrogenated vegetable oil. That would give 0.3-0.8% trans fat in the peanut butter, but the study couldn't detect any trans fat (with a detection limit of 0.01%). So either it's fully hydrogenated, or they have some way of doing partial hydrogenation without producing trans fat.
– jkej
yesterday
2
So perhaps the marketing directive behind omitting the partial/full qualifier is "keep the ingredient list as short as possible".
– Timbo
yesterday
2
Interesting. JIF's labeling makes a point of stating that theirs is fully hydrogenated. Perhaps Skippy's is a blend of fully and partially.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
add a comment |
2
"It seems highly likely to me that the manufacturer did this intentionally to avoid the negative stigma associated with partial hydrogenation." But partially hydrogenated oil typically consists of 30-40% trans fat and according to the study cited in David Hammen's answer, peanut butter typically contains 1-2% hydrogenated vegetable oil. That would give 0.3-0.8% trans fat in the peanut butter, but the study couldn't detect any trans fat (with a detection limit of 0.01%). So either it's fully hydrogenated, or they have some way of doing partial hydrogenation without producing trans fat.
– jkej
yesterday
2
So perhaps the marketing directive behind omitting the partial/full qualifier is "keep the ingredient list as short as possible".
– Timbo
yesterday
2
Interesting. JIF's labeling makes a point of stating that theirs is fully hydrogenated. Perhaps Skippy's is a blend of fully and partially.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
2
2
"It seems highly likely to me that the manufacturer did this intentionally to avoid the negative stigma associated with partial hydrogenation." But partially hydrogenated oil typically consists of 30-40% trans fat and according to the study cited in David Hammen's answer, peanut butter typically contains 1-2% hydrogenated vegetable oil. That would give 0.3-0.8% trans fat in the peanut butter, but the study couldn't detect any trans fat (with a detection limit of 0.01%). So either it's fully hydrogenated, or they have some way of doing partial hydrogenation without producing trans fat.
– jkej
yesterday
"It seems highly likely to me that the manufacturer did this intentionally to avoid the negative stigma associated with partial hydrogenation." But partially hydrogenated oil typically consists of 30-40% trans fat and according to the study cited in David Hammen's answer, peanut butter typically contains 1-2% hydrogenated vegetable oil. That would give 0.3-0.8% trans fat in the peanut butter, but the study couldn't detect any trans fat (with a detection limit of 0.01%). So either it's fully hydrogenated, or they have some way of doing partial hydrogenation without producing trans fat.
– jkej
yesterday
2
2
So perhaps the marketing directive behind omitting the partial/full qualifier is "keep the ingredient list as short as possible".
– Timbo
yesterday
So perhaps the marketing directive behind omitting the partial/full qualifier is "keep the ingredient list as short as possible".
– Timbo
yesterday
2
2
Interesting. JIF's labeling makes a point of stating that theirs is fully hydrogenated. Perhaps Skippy's is a blend of fully and partially.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
Interesting. JIF's labeling makes a point of stating that theirs is fully hydrogenated. Perhaps Skippy's is a blend of fully and partially.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
add a comment |
The FDA has determined that Partially Hydrogenated Oils are not Generally Recognized as Safe (or GRAS) and has established rules for their elimination from the US food supply:
https://www.fda.gov/food/ingredientspackaginglabeling/foodadditivesingredients/ucm449162.htm
If any food still contains trans-fat, it won't for long; they are being removed from all foods.
9
That's all well and good, but it doesn't answer the question of whether Skippy peanut butter contains trans fat or not.
– Mark
yesterday
1
True, but in some ways it does. The FDA order is 3 or 4 years old. Every manufacturer of food products has been working to remove to remove trans fats from their product recipes (trans fats are not natural, they are manufactured). If a manufacturer proclaims their product Trans Fat free on their web site, then it should be trans fat free. I wouldn't be surprised for the FDA to eventually make a rule saying that products can't say "trans fat free" - all products will meet that spec. I agree the accepted answer is correct. But, I thought this information was relevant (& more than a comment)
– Flydog57
yesterday
2
Re If any food still contains trans-fat, it won't for long; they are being removed from all foods. That just isn't true. Some foods naturally contain trans fatty acids; the FDA is not banning such foods. What it is doing is making it very, very difficult (if not impossible) to use vegetable oils that are intentionally partially hydrogenated. What about fully hydrogenated vegetable oils? They'll remain okay for use in foods. The problem is that those fully hydrogenated vegetable oils aren't 100% fully hydrogenated. They inevitably contain small amounts of trans fatty acids.
– David Hammen
yesterday
2
@Flydog57 - Re trans fats are not natural -- Cattle in particular are rather good at manufacturing trans fatty acids. Beef contains a good amount, as do dairy products. So do other meat-based products. Some trans fatty acids occur naturally. While partially hydrogenated vegetable oils apparently do compound the problem raised by trans fatty acids, the distinction between "natural" vs. "artificial" trans fatty acids themselves is rather artificial (pun intended). That said, it's good advice to reduce ones intake of ground beef and butter.
– David Hammen
yesterday
1
Doesn't answer the question
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
|
show 1 more comment
The FDA has determined that Partially Hydrogenated Oils are not Generally Recognized as Safe (or GRAS) and has established rules for their elimination from the US food supply:
https://www.fda.gov/food/ingredientspackaginglabeling/foodadditivesingredients/ucm449162.htm
If any food still contains trans-fat, it won't for long; they are being removed from all foods.
9
That's all well and good, but it doesn't answer the question of whether Skippy peanut butter contains trans fat or not.
– Mark
yesterday
1
True, but in some ways it does. The FDA order is 3 or 4 years old. Every manufacturer of food products has been working to remove to remove trans fats from their product recipes (trans fats are not natural, they are manufactured). If a manufacturer proclaims their product Trans Fat free on their web site, then it should be trans fat free. I wouldn't be surprised for the FDA to eventually make a rule saying that products can't say "trans fat free" - all products will meet that spec. I agree the accepted answer is correct. But, I thought this information was relevant (& more than a comment)
– Flydog57
yesterday
2
Re If any food still contains trans-fat, it won't for long; they are being removed from all foods. That just isn't true. Some foods naturally contain trans fatty acids; the FDA is not banning such foods. What it is doing is making it very, very difficult (if not impossible) to use vegetable oils that are intentionally partially hydrogenated. What about fully hydrogenated vegetable oils? They'll remain okay for use in foods. The problem is that those fully hydrogenated vegetable oils aren't 100% fully hydrogenated. They inevitably contain small amounts of trans fatty acids.
– David Hammen
yesterday
2
@Flydog57 - Re trans fats are not natural -- Cattle in particular are rather good at manufacturing trans fatty acids. Beef contains a good amount, as do dairy products. So do other meat-based products. Some trans fatty acids occur naturally. While partially hydrogenated vegetable oils apparently do compound the problem raised by trans fatty acids, the distinction between "natural" vs. "artificial" trans fatty acids themselves is rather artificial (pun intended). That said, it's good advice to reduce ones intake of ground beef and butter.
– David Hammen
yesterday
1
Doesn't answer the question
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
|
show 1 more comment
The FDA has determined that Partially Hydrogenated Oils are not Generally Recognized as Safe (or GRAS) and has established rules for their elimination from the US food supply:
https://www.fda.gov/food/ingredientspackaginglabeling/foodadditivesingredients/ucm449162.htm
If any food still contains trans-fat, it won't for long; they are being removed from all foods.
The FDA has determined that Partially Hydrogenated Oils are not Generally Recognized as Safe (or GRAS) and has established rules for their elimination from the US food supply:
https://www.fda.gov/food/ingredientspackaginglabeling/foodadditivesingredients/ucm449162.htm
If any food still contains trans-fat, it won't for long; they are being removed from all foods.
edited yesterday
Ted Delezene
1054
1054
answered yesterday
Flydog57Flydog57
1293
1293
9
That's all well and good, but it doesn't answer the question of whether Skippy peanut butter contains trans fat or not.
– Mark
yesterday
1
True, but in some ways it does. The FDA order is 3 or 4 years old. Every manufacturer of food products has been working to remove to remove trans fats from their product recipes (trans fats are not natural, they are manufactured). If a manufacturer proclaims their product Trans Fat free on their web site, then it should be trans fat free. I wouldn't be surprised for the FDA to eventually make a rule saying that products can't say "trans fat free" - all products will meet that spec. I agree the accepted answer is correct. But, I thought this information was relevant (& more than a comment)
– Flydog57
yesterday
2
Re If any food still contains trans-fat, it won't for long; they are being removed from all foods. That just isn't true. Some foods naturally contain trans fatty acids; the FDA is not banning such foods. What it is doing is making it very, very difficult (if not impossible) to use vegetable oils that are intentionally partially hydrogenated. What about fully hydrogenated vegetable oils? They'll remain okay for use in foods. The problem is that those fully hydrogenated vegetable oils aren't 100% fully hydrogenated. They inevitably contain small amounts of trans fatty acids.
– David Hammen
yesterday
2
@Flydog57 - Re trans fats are not natural -- Cattle in particular are rather good at manufacturing trans fatty acids. Beef contains a good amount, as do dairy products. So do other meat-based products. Some trans fatty acids occur naturally. While partially hydrogenated vegetable oils apparently do compound the problem raised by trans fatty acids, the distinction between "natural" vs. "artificial" trans fatty acids themselves is rather artificial (pun intended). That said, it's good advice to reduce ones intake of ground beef and butter.
– David Hammen
yesterday
1
Doesn't answer the question
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
|
show 1 more comment
9
That's all well and good, but it doesn't answer the question of whether Skippy peanut butter contains trans fat or not.
– Mark
yesterday
1
True, but in some ways it does. The FDA order is 3 or 4 years old. Every manufacturer of food products has been working to remove to remove trans fats from their product recipes (trans fats are not natural, they are manufactured). If a manufacturer proclaims their product Trans Fat free on their web site, then it should be trans fat free. I wouldn't be surprised for the FDA to eventually make a rule saying that products can't say "trans fat free" - all products will meet that spec. I agree the accepted answer is correct. But, I thought this information was relevant (& more than a comment)
– Flydog57
yesterday
2
Re If any food still contains trans-fat, it won't for long; they are being removed from all foods. That just isn't true. Some foods naturally contain trans fatty acids; the FDA is not banning such foods. What it is doing is making it very, very difficult (if not impossible) to use vegetable oils that are intentionally partially hydrogenated. What about fully hydrogenated vegetable oils? They'll remain okay for use in foods. The problem is that those fully hydrogenated vegetable oils aren't 100% fully hydrogenated. They inevitably contain small amounts of trans fatty acids.
– David Hammen
yesterday
2
@Flydog57 - Re trans fats are not natural -- Cattle in particular are rather good at manufacturing trans fatty acids. Beef contains a good amount, as do dairy products. So do other meat-based products. Some trans fatty acids occur naturally. While partially hydrogenated vegetable oils apparently do compound the problem raised by trans fatty acids, the distinction between "natural" vs. "artificial" trans fatty acids themselves is rather artificial (pun intended). That said, it's good advice to reduce ones intake of ground beef and butter.
– David Hammen
yesterday
1
Doesn't answer the question
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
9
9
That's all well and good, but it doesn't answer the question of whether Skippy peanut butter contains trans fat or not.
– Mark
yesterday
That's all well and good, but it doesn't answer the question of whether Skippy peanut butter contains trans fat or not.
– Mark
yesterday
1
1
True, but in some ways it does. The FDA order is 3 or 4 years old. Every manufacturer of food products has been working to remove to remove trans fats from their product recipes (trans fats are not natural, they are manufactured). If a manufacturer proclaims their product Trans Fat free on their web site, then it should be trans fat free. I wouldn't be surprised for the FDA to eventually make a rule saying that products can't say "trans fat free" - all products will meet that spec. I agree the accepted answer is correct. But, I thought this information was relevant (& more than a comment)
– Flydog57
yesterday
True, but in some ways it does. The FDA order is 3 or 4 years old. Every manufacturer of food products has been working to remove to remove trans fats from their product recipes (trans fats are not natural, they are manufactured). If a manufacturer proclaims their product Trans Fat free on their web site, then it should be trans fat free. I wouldn't be surprised for the FDA to eventually make a rule saying that products can't say "trans fat free" - all products will meet that spec. I agree the accepted answer is correct. But, I thought this information was relevant (& more than a comment)
– Flydog57
yesterday
2
2
Re If any food still contains trans-fat, it won't for long; they are being removed from all foods. That just isn't true. Some foods naturally contain trans fatty acids; the FDA is not banning such foods. What it is doing is making it very, very difficult (if not impossible) to use vegetable oils that are intentionally partially hydrogenated. What about fully hydrogenated vegetable oils? They'll remain okay for use in foods. The problem is that those fully hydrogenated vegetable oils aren't 100% fully hydrogenated. They inevitably contain small amounts of trans fatty acids.
– David Hammen
yesterday
Re If any food still contains trans-fat, it won't for long; they are being removed from all foods. That just isn't true. Some foods naturally contain trans fatty acids; the FDA is not banning such foods. What it is doing is making it very, very difficult (if not impossible) to use vegetable oils that are intentionally partially hydrogenated. What about fully hydrogenated vegetable oils? They'll remain okay for use in foods. The problem is that those fully hydrogenated vegetable oils aren't 100% fully hydrogenated. They inevitably contain small amounts of trans fatty acids.
– David Hammen
yesterday
2
2
@Flydog57 - Re trans fats are not natural -- Cattle in particular are rather good at manufacturing trans fatty acids. Beef contains a good amount, as do dairy products. So do other meat-based products. Some trans fatty acids occur naturally. While partially hydrogenated vegetable oils apparently do compound the problem raised by trans fatty acids, the distinction between "natural" vs. "artificial" trans fatty acids themselves is rather artificial (pun intended). That said, it's good advice to reduce ones intake of ground beef and butter.
– David Hammen
yesterday
@Flydog57 - Re trans fats are not natural -- Cattle in particular are rather good at manufacturing trans fatty acids. Beef contains a good amount, as do dairy products. So do other meat-based products. Some trans fatty acids occur naturally. While partially hydrogenated vegetable oils apparently do compound the problem raised by trans fatty acids, the distinction between "natural" vs. "artificial" trans fatty acids themselves is rather artificial (pun intended). That said, it's good advice to reduce ones intake of ground beef and butter.
– David Hammen
yesterday
1
1
Doesn't answer the question
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
Doesn't answer the question
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
|
show 1 more comment
5
Could it be that local law allows "...has zero grams per serving." meaning "...has less than one gram per serving."?
– npst
yesterday
1
I thought hydrogenated oils was trans-fat, not just soybean oil. So hydrogenated canola (rapeseed) oil would also be trans-fat, right?
– Chloe
22 hours ago
1
@Chloe Only partially hydrogenated oil contains trans fat and the only partially hydrogenated oil is the soy bean oil. The other oils are fully hydrogenated, so they do not contain trans fat.
– Chris Redford
21 hours ago
Are you sure the soybean oil is partially hydrogenated? Where does it say that?
– iamnotmaynard
9 hours ago
1
Trans fats are not entirely unnatural. They can develop at low levels during mechanical processing and product storage from the original form. So without legal permission to use 0 to represent "negligible" or "trace", it can't ever be strictly true. Such levels are not a health hazard -- "The poison is in the dose". Of course, the levels in chemically partially hydrogenated fats are completely off the scale of natural occurrence, and do represent a health hazard.
– nigel222
3 hours ago