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Why is working on the same position for more than 15 years not a red flag?


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I'm about to interview someone who applied for the same position that I have: senior software engineer.



The candidate is 13 years older than me and has worked in the same position for more than 15 years.



I find this to be extremely fishy and I can't figure out a way to get out of this mindset that I know is not right.



Why is this OK and not a red flag?
Will the candidate influence the team in a good way? Or will the candidate seem bored and show tiredness for doing the same thing endlessly?










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    Why is it extremely fishy?

    – Kozaky
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    @LauriElias Or they're happy with what they're doing and have plenty of diversity in their role.

    – Twyxz
    4 hours ago






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    @LauriElias: “A smart person would get bored of maintaining a Spring app for a decade” — there are so many completely baseless prejudices wrapped up in that little statement.

    – Paul D. Waite
    4 hours ago






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    I find it amazing that some people find an individual who is not interested in climbing the corporate ladder and achieving world domination to be suspicious.

    – gburton
    2 hours ago






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    I would be more than happy to be checked by a doctor with 15+ years of experience on his field. Or to watch a lecture from a teacher with 15+ years of experience on his subject. Or to eat the food from a chef with 15+ years of experience on the kitchen. Why software development would be different?

    – T. Sar
    2 hours ago


















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I'm about to interview someone who applied for the same position that I have: senior software engineer.



The candidate is 13 years older than me and has worked in the same position for more than 15 years.



I find this to be extremely fishy and I can't figure out a way to get out of this mindset that I know is not right.



Why is this OK and not a red flag?
Will the candidate influence the team in a good way? Or will the candidate seem bored and show tiredness for doing the same thing endlessly?










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  • 63





    Why is it extremely fishy?

    – Kozaky
    5 hours ago






  • 14





    @LauriElias Or they're happy with what they're doing and have plenty of diversity in their role.

    – Twyxz
    4 hours ago






  • 51





    @LauriElias: “A smart person would get bored of maintaining a Spring app for a decade” — there are so many completely baseless prejudices wrapped up in that little statement.

    – Paul D. Waite
    4 hours ago






  • 40





    I find it amazing that some people find an individual who is not interested in climbing the corporate ladder and achieving world domination to be suspicious.

    – gburton
    2 hours ago






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    I would be more than happy to be checked by a doctor with 15+ years of experience on his field. Or to watch a lecture from a teacher with 15+ years of experience on his subject. Or to eat the food from a chef with 15+ years of experience on the kitchen. Why software development would be different?

    – T. Sar
    2 hours ago
















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I'm about to interview someone who applied for the same position that I have: senior software engineer.



The candidate is 13 years older than me and has worked in the same position for more than 15 years.



I find this to be extremely fishy and I can't figure out a way to get out of this mindset that I know is not right.



Why is this OK and not a red flag?
Will the candidate influence the team in a good way? Or will the candidate seem bored and show tiredness for doing the same thing endlessly?










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I'm about to interview someone who applied for the same position that I have: senior software engineer.



The candidate is 13 years older than me and has worked in the same position for more than 15 years.



I find this to be extremely fishy and I can't figure out a way to get out of this mindset that I know is not right.



Why is this OK and not a red flag?
Will the candidate influence the team in a good way? Or will the candidate seem bored and show tiredness for doing the same thing endlessly?







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  • 63





    Why is it extremely fishy?

    – Kozaky
    5 hours ago






  • 14





    @LauriElias Or they're happy with what they're doing and have plenty of diversity in their role.

    – Twyxz
    4 hours ago






  • 51





    @LauriElias: “A smart person would get bored of maintaining a Spring app for a decade” — there are so many completely baseless prejudices wrapped up in that little statement.

    – Paul D. Waite
    4 hours ago






  • 40





    I find it amazing that some people find an individual who is not interested in climbing the corporate ladder and achieving world domination to be suspicious.

    – gburton
    2 hours ago






  • 29





    I would be more than happy to be checked by a doctor with 15+ years of experience on his field. Or to watch a lecture from a teacher with 15+ years of experience on his subject. Or to eat the food from a chef with 15+ years of experience on the kitchen. Why software development would be different?

    – T. Sar
    2 hours ago
















  • 63





    Why is it extremely fishy?

    – Kozaky
    5 hours ago






  • 14





    @LauriElias Or they're happy with what they're doing and have plenty of diversity in their role.

    – Twyxz
    4 hours ago






  • 51





    @LauriElias: “A smart person would get bored of maintaining a Spring app for a decade” — there are so many completely baseless prejudices wrapped up in that little statement.

    – Paul D. Waite
    4 hours ago






  • 40





    I find it amazing that some people find an individual who is not interested in climbing the corporate ladder and achieving world domination to be suspicious.

    – gburton
    2 hours ago






  • 29





    I would be more than happy to be checked by a doctor with 15+ years of experience on his field. Or to watch a lecture from a teacher with 15+ years of experience on his subject. Or to eat the food from a chef with 15+ years of experience on the kitchen. Why software development would be different?

    – T. Sar
    2 hours ago










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Why is it extremely fishy?

– Kozaky
5 hours ago





Why is it extremely fishy?

– Kozaky
5 hours ago




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@LauriElias Or they're happy with what they're doing and have plenty of diversity in their role.

– Twyxz
4 hours ago





@LauriElias Or they're happy with what they're doing and have plenty of diversity in their role.

– Twyxz
4 hours ago




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51





@LauriElias: “A smart person would get bored of maintaining a Spring app for a decade” — there are so many completely baseless prejudices wrapped up in that little statement.

– Paul D. Waite
4 hours ago





@LauriElias: “A smart person would get bored of maintaining a Spring app for a decade” — there are so many completely baseless prejudices wrapped up in that little statement.

– Paul D. Waite
4 hours ago




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I find it amazing that some people find an individual who is not interested in climbing the corporate ladder and achieving world domination to be suspicious.

– gburton
2 hours ago





I find it amazing that some people find an individual who is not interested in climbing the corporate ladder and achieving world domination to be suspicious.

– gburton
2 hours ago




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I would be more than happy to be checked by a doctor with 15+ years of experience on his field. Or to watch a lecture from a teacher with 15+ years of experience on his subject. Or to eat the food from a chef with 15+ years of experience on the kitchen. Why software development would be different?

– T. Sar
2 hours ago







I would be more than happy to be checked by a doctor with 15+ years of experience on his field. Or to watch a lecture from a teacher with 15+ years of experience on his subject. Or to eat the food from a chef with 15+ years of experience on the kitchen. Why software development would be different?

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How about you wait for the interview before you judge that person...




  • Not everyone is interested in climbing the corporate ladder.


  • Maybe there was no other position suited for them at the company.


  • At least it tells you, they are good enough to be kept around for over a decade.


  • how about they love what they do so much that they don't consider other positions


  • Higher positions require leadership and "people" skills and maybe it's just not in their nature


  • some people don't want to have too much responsibilities


  • Many are just fine with being told what to do and then carry on with their work


  • Maybe they needed a stable income for personal reasons without the risks new and more demanding positions bring to job security and time management







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    +1. If this candidate gets the job and you end up working with / nearby, learn as much as you can. The chances are this person knows plenty of stuff not directly related to the role.

    – Justin
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    +1. The next step up from Senior Software Dev would usually be a managerial position, and I know quite a couple of senior developers who have absolutely refused that and are happier and more useful to their companies right where they are.

    – Eike Pierstorff
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    @EikePierstorff In a (small) company I worked for the next step up was "owner". One does not become owner by merit alone.. I see zero red flags or fishiness tbh, this developer held down a job for 15 years, that's a green flag, if there is such a thing as a green flag.

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    Also, being senior, means he has achieved the highest (or one of the highest) levels of software engineering, since senior means time and experience. It would be a red flag if he was a junior software engineer for 15 years.

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    As @EikePierstorff said, there are engineers that are absolutely not interested in going to management and they just love coding. I've met people that have coded since the ZX Spectrum and are still coding, in games, today, without any interest for office politics, etc. Nothing fishy there.

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Why is this OK and not a red flag?




So you seek someone who will do Software-engineering for you. The candidate you have at hand has a lot of experience in that area. He has achieved the highest rank possible where his main occupation still is software engineering - long ago, and he stayed with it.



So chances are:




  • He really loves what he is doing.

  • He is good at it and does not do all the expensive rookie mistakes.

  • He does not want to get into a leadership-position and make expensive rookie mistakes there.

  • He is really loyal and if treated right, will stick around your company equally long

  • You won´t have to do expensive recruiting and training of a new developer in 3 years


Go to see for yourself. Try to find out especially if he is open and interested in new technologies, ideas and engineering-concepts and if he can communicate and share his knowledge with the rest of the team.






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    Being a person similar to what OP is asking about, I agree with your points. There are, however, things to look out for with such persons as well: the candidate might have a problem with change. Some people react poorly to changing working conditions and this may be a reason he stuck for so long. So be sure to look out for indicators whether this is the case. Also, he might have been working with "old" technology for a long time and may be missing skills necessary for the position in question. Luckily, people with so much experience often learn the missing pieces faster.

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    BTW, I did try to get into management and found that I suck at that. It made me unhappy and I was poor in that position. So I happily remain a senior developer and continue doing a job that is fun to me and where I think I'm actually valuable.

    – DarkDust
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    @DarkDust: I totally agree with you. That´s why I wrote the Try to find out ... section. Also, if you employ someone like this, see that he don´t starts to build himself the "ivory tower" i.e. making himself indispensable.

    – Daniel
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    @DarkDust: Another warning, the candidate may just not be that good. I've met my share of "senior" software developers who had simply repeated their junior years over and over, and never demonstrated any kind of seniority except graying at the temples and teenage kids (which doesn't mean they were not diligent in the tasks assigned to them).

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The most important question, in my opinion, is: Can you afford to ignore applicants?



For development jobs, at least here in Germany, there are so few applicants, that I interview everyone who is not obviously unqualified. I cannot afford to skip over someone based on too little information.



For other jobs, when you have a hundred applications for one opening, it makes sense to filter more strongly, based on criteria you ideally have defined it advance.



Yes, what you describe is uncommon, but it's not necessarily bad. In fact, thirty years ago, profiles like this were the norm. At the very least, you have someone who is easily motivated and loyal.






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    Why would it be a red flag? Senior Software Engineer or Software Engineer III could be highest position in his company that still was able to code, so because of that, he maybe didnt want to become a manager or whoever else.



    Not every company creates fancy positions like Senior Ninja Developer or Wizard JS Dev just in order to give promotions






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      Why is this OK and not a red flag?




      It depends on the company's culture but for some, it is a red flag.



      The company I work in, a large one, considers that a candidate like this is not someone to invest in and will call contractors for profiles like this, preferring recruiting people able to "climb the ladder".



      For some other companies, it is a type of profile they seek in order to have experts / senior developers.



      TLDR: Ask your management to clarify the profiles they want you to find and if they consider it as a red flag.






      Will the candidate influence the team in a good way? Or will the candidate seem bored and show tiredness for doing the same thing endlessly?




      You don't have enough informations to answer this. See the candidate, interview him. Only knowing he has been in the same job for years is not enough.






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      • How does that answer the question?

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        @Daniel It answers the title and the Why is this OK and not a red flag? question. It is OK only if company's recruiting policy allows it to be OK.

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      • Consider that "the same position" doesn't necessarily mean the same team, tech stack, project or even the same office. I personally work with a different client every 6-12 months, and I've learned a lot of new technologies, gotten significant raises, moved to a different branch, all without my job title ever changing. That might not be the norm, but it happens. Ask the candidate about some war stories, they might surprise you.


      • Some companies offer job security and new toys. At my last client (key player in a very lucrative segment) all but one or two of my colleagues had been at the company for 10+ years. Yes, there were a handful that disliked having to learn new tech, but they were a minority.


      • They might have been very invested in the job or the company. Could be a project they championed, improvements to the workflow they made over time, or perhaps the company was a successful startup?







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        All you can infer from this information is either:




        • The developer has reached their comfort zone in capability, and is unwilling to take on aditional responsabilities (people management, project management, etc) as mandated by their current employer's structure.


        • The developer has some specific weakness which limits their progression in the above structure (e.g. inability to work well with non-technical, non-expert staff).



        You also know they have held a position for an extended period of time, so you can be reasonably confident in identifying their current potential.



        Now, you ask about how this will affect your team. This depends on if your team are all expected to move on to be managers in a few years, if you have a high turnover, how diverse the age and experience range currently is, if you feel secure in managing your team - but if you're genuinely recruiting for the role you have matched this candidate too, you might have a very good opportunity. There is no hint of a red flag compared with any other potential candiate based on this information.



        On the other hand, 15 years experience with 20 different roles does start to look like a candidate who still hasn't found something that they feel they can do well.






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        • No, you cannot reasonably infer either of those things.

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        • I didn't say you should, just that the data supports nothing else.

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        • The data doesn't support your assumptions either. There are myriad other reasons why an employee may stay that long in a position. The company may have offered great benefits beyond pay that no other company had been able to match. The person may have simply really enjoyed his job and valued that over advancement. They may have simply been of the old school mindset that you don't change jobs every few years. They may have a medical condition that caused them to stay put, either for work environment or insurance reasons.

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        How about you wait for the interview before you judge that person...




        • Not everyone is interested in climbing the corporate ladder.


        • Maybe there was no other position suited for them at the company.


        • At least it tells you, they are good enough to be kept around for over a decade.


        • how about they love what they do so much that they don't consider other positions


        • Higher positions require leadership and "people" skills and maybe it's just not in their nature


        • some people don't want to have too much responsibilities


        • Many are just fine with being told what to do and then carry on with their work


        • Maybe they needed a stable income for personal reasons without the risks new and more demanding positions bring to job security and time management







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          +1. If this candidate gets the job and you end up working with / nearby, learn as much as you can. The chances are this person knows plenty of stuff not directly related to the role.

          – Justin
          5 hours ago






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          +1. The next step up from Senior Software Dev would usually be a managerial position, and I know quite a couple of senior developers who have absolutely refused that and are happier and more useful to their companies right where they are.

          – Eike Pierstorff
          4 hours ago






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          @EikePierstorff In a (small) company I worked for the next step up was "owner". One does not become owner by merit alone.. I see zero red flags or fishiness tbh, this developer held down a job for 15 years, that's a green flag, if there is such a thing as a green flag.

          – Douwe
          4 hours ago








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          Also, being senior, means he has achieved the highest (or one of the highest) levels of software engineering, since senior means time and experience. It would be a red flag if he was a junior software engineer for 15 years.

          – A.T.
          3 hours ago






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          As @EikePierstorff said, there are engineers that are absolutely not interested in going to management and they just love coding. I've met people that have coded since the ZX Spectrum and are still coding, in games, today, without any interest for office politics, etc. Nothing fishy there.

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          2 hours ago
















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        How about you wait for the interview before you judge that person...




        • Not everyone is interested in climbing the corporate ladder.


        • Maybe there was no other position suited for them at the company.


        • At least it tells you, they are good enough to be kept around for over a decade.


        • how about they love what they do so much that they don't consider other positions


        • Higher positions require leadership and "people" skills and maybe it's just not in their nature


        • some people don't want to have too much responsibilities


        • Many are just fine with being told what to do and then carry on with their work


        • Maybe they needed a stable income for personal reasons without the risks new and more demanding positions bring to job security and time management







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          +1. If this candidate gets the job and you end up working with / nearby, learn as much as you can. The chances are this person knows plenty of stuff not directly related to the role.

          – Justin
          5 hours ago






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          +1. The next step up from Senior Software Dev would usually be a managerial position, and I know quite a couple of senior developers who have absolutely refused that and are happier and more useful to their companies right where they are.

          – Eike Pierstorff
          4 hours ago






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          @EikePierstorff In a (small) company I worked for the next step up was "owner". One does not become owner by merit alone.. I see zero red flags or fishiness tbh, this developer held down a job for 15 years, that's a green flag, if there is such a thing as a green flag.

          – Douwe
          4 hours ago








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          Also, being senior, means he has achieved the highest (or one of the highest) levels of software engineering, since senior means time and experience. It would be a red flag if he was a junior software engineer for 15 years.

          – A.T.
          3 hours ago






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          As @EikePierstorff said, there are engineers that are absolutely not interested in going to management and they just love coding. I've met people that have coded since the ZX Spectrum and are still coding, in games, today, without any interest for office politics, etc. Nothing fishy there.

          – Thomas
          2 hours ago














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        How about you wait for the interview before you judge that person...




        • Not everyone is interested in climbing the corporate ladder.


        • Maybe there was no other position suited for them at the company.


        • At least it tells you, they are good enough to be kept around for over a decade.


        • how about they love what they do so much that they don't consider other positions


        • Higher positions require leadership and "people" skills and maybe it's just not in their nature


        • some people don't want to have too much responsibilities


        • Many are just fine with being told what to do and then carry on with their work


        • Maybe they needed a stable income for personal reasons without the risks new and more demanding positions bring to job security and time management







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        How about you wait for the interview before you judge that person...




        • Not everyone is interested in climbing the corporate ladder.


        • Maybe there was no other position suited for them at the company.


        • At least it tells you, they are good enough to be kept around for over a decade.


        • how about they love what they do so much that they don't consider other positions


        • Higher positions require leadership and "people" skills and maybe it's just not in their nature


        • some people don't want to have too much responsibilities


        • Many are just fine with being told what to do and then carry on with their work


        • Maybe they needed a stable income for personal reasons without the risks new and more demanding positions bring to job security and time management








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          +1. If this candidate gets the job and you end up working with / nearby, learn as much as you can. The chances are this person knows plenty of stuff not directly related to the role.

          – Justin
          5 hours ago






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          +1. The next step up from Senior Software Dev would usually be a managerial position, and I know quite a couple of senior developers who have absolutely refused that and are happier and more useful to their companies right where they are.

          – Eike Pierstorff
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          @EikePierstorff In a (small) company I worked for the next step up was "owner". One does not become owner by merit alone.. I see zero red flags or fishiness tbh, this developer held down a job for 15 years, that's a green flag, if there is such a thing as a green flag.

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          Also, being senior, means he has achieved the highest (or one of the highest) levels of software engineering, since senior means time and experience. It would be a red flag if he was a junior software engineer for 15 years.

          – A.T.
          3 hours ago






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          As @EikePierstorff said, there are engineers that are absolutely not interested in going to management and they just love coding. I've met people that have coded since the ZX Spectrum and are still coding, in games, today, without any interest for office politics, etc. Nothing fishy there.

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          2 hours ago














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          +1. If this candidate gets the job and you end up working with / nearby, learn as much as you can. The chances are this person knows plenty of stuff not directly related to the role.

          – Justin
          5 hours ago






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          +1. The next step up from Senior Software Dev would usually be a managerial position, and I know quite a couple of senior developers who have absolutely refused that and are happier and more useful to their companies right where they are.

          – Eike Pierstorff
          4 hours ago






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          @EikePierstorff In a (small) company I worked for the next step up was "owner". One does not become owner by merit alone.. I see zero red flags or fishiness tbh, this developer held down a job for 15 years, that's a green flag, if there is such a thing as a green flag.

          – Douwe
          4 hours ago








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          Also, being senior, means he has achieved the highest (or one of the highest) levels of software engineering, since senior means time and experience. It would be a red flag if he was a junior software engineer for 15 years.

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          3 hours ago






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          As @EikePierstorff said, there are engineers that are absolutely not interested in going to management and they just love coding. I've met people that have coded since the ZX Spectrum and are still coding, in games, today, without any interest for office politics, etc. Nothing fishy there.

          – Thomas
          2 hours ago








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        +1. If this candidate gets the job and you end up working with / nearby, learn as much as you can. The chances are this person knows plenty of stuff not directly related to the role.

        – Justin
        5 hours ago





        +1. If this candidate gets the job and you end up working with / nearby, learn as much as you can. The chances are this person knows plenty of stuff not directly related to the role.

        – Justin
        5 hours ago




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        +1. The next step up from Senior Software Dev would usually be a managerial position, and I know quite a couple of senior developers who have absolutely refused that and are happier and more useful to their companies right where they are.

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        4 hours ago





        +1. The next step up from Senior Software Dev would usually be a managerial position, and I know quite a couple of senior developers who have absolutely refused that and are happier and more useful to their companies right where they are.

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        @EikePierstorff In a (small) company I worked for the next step up was "owner". One does not become owner by merit alone.. I see zero red flags or fishiness tbh, this developer held down a job for 15 years, that's a green flag, if there is such a thing as a green flag.

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        4 hours ago







        @EikePierstorff In a (small) company I worked for the next step up was "owner". One does not become owner by merit alone.. I see zero red flags or fishiness tbh, this developer held down a job for 15 years, that's a green flag, if there is such a thing as a green flag.

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        Also, being senior, means he has achieved the highest (or one of the highest) levels of software engineering, since senior means time and experience. It would be a red flag if he was a junior software engineer for 15 years.

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        3 hours ago





        Also, being senior, means he has achieved the highest (or one of the highest) levels of software engineering, since senior means time and experience. It would be a red flag if he was a junior software engineer for 15 years.

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        3 hours ago




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        As @EikePierstorff said, there are engineers that are absolutely not interested in going to management and they just love coding. I've met people that have coded since the ZX Spectrum and are still coding, in games, today, without any interest for office politics, etc. Nothing fishy there.

        – Thomas
        2 hours ago





        As @EikePierstorff said, there are engineers that are absolutely not interested in going to management and they just love coding. I've met people that have coded since the ZX Spectrum and are still coding, in games, today, without any interest for office politics, etc. Nothing fishy there.

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        Why is this OK and not a red flag?




        So you seek someone who will do Software-engineering for you. The candidate you have at hand has a lot of experience in that area. He has achieved the highest rank possible where his main occupation still is software engineering - long ago, and he stayed with it.



        So chances are:




        • He really loves what he is doing.

        • He is good at it and does not do all the expensive rookie mistakes.

        • He does not want to get into a leadership-position and make expensive rookie mistakes there.

        • He is really loyal and if treated right, will stick around your company equally long

        • You won´t have to do expensive recruiting and training of a new developer in 3 years


        Go to see for yourself. Try to find out especially if he is open and interested in new technologies, ideas and engineering-concepts and if he can communicate and share his knowledge with the rest of the team.






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          Being a person similar to what OP is asking about, I agree with your points. There are, however, things to look out for with such persons as well: the candidate might have a problem with change. Some people react poorly to changing working conditions and this may be a reason he stuck for so long. So be sure to look out for indicators whether this is the case. Also, he might have been working with "old" technology for a long time and may be missing skills necessary for the position in question. Luckily, people with so much experience often learn the missing pieces faster.

          – DarkDust
          2 hours ago






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          BTW, I did try to get into management and found that I suck at that. It made me unhappy and I was poor in that position. So I happily remain a senior developer and continue doing a job that is fun to me and where I think I'm actually valuable.

          – DarkDust
          2 hours ago






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          @DarkDust: I totally agree with you. That´s why I wrote the Try to find out ... section. Also, if you employ someone like this, see that he don´t starts to build himself the "ivory tower" i.e. making himself indispensable.

          – Daniel
          2 hours ago






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          @DarkDust: Another warning, the candidate may just not be that good. I've met my share of "senior" software developers who had simply repeated their junior years over and over, and never demonstrated any kind of seniority except graying at the temples and teenage kids (which doesn't mean they were not diligent in the tasks assigned to them).

          – Matthieu M.
          1 hour ago
















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        Why is this OK and not a red flag?




        So you seek someone who will do Software-engineering for you. The candidate you have at hand has a lot of experience in that area. He has achieved the highest rank possible where his main occupation still is software engineering - long ago, and he stayed with it.



        So chances are:




        • He really loves what he is doing.

        • He is good at it and does not do all the expensive rookie mistakes.

        • He does not want to get into a leadership-position and make expensive rookie mistakes there.

        • He is really loyal and if treated right, will stick around your company equally long

        • You won´t have to do expensive recruiting and training of a new developer in 3 years


        Go to see for yourself. Try to find out especially if he is open and interested in new technologies, ideas and engineering-concepts and if he can communicate and share his knowledge with the rest of the team.






        share|improve this answer



















        • 2





          Being a person similar to what OP is asking about, I agree with your points. There are, however, things to look out for with such persons as well: the candidate might have a problem with change. Some people react poorly to changing working conditions and this may be a reason he stuck for so long. So be sure to look out for indicators whether this is the case. Also, he might have been working with "old" technology for a long time and may be missing skills necessary for the position in question. Luckily, people with so much experience often learn the missing pieces faster.

          – DarkDust
          2 hours ago






        • 2





          BTW, I did try to get into management and found that I suck at that. It made me unhappy and I was poor in that position. So I happily remain a senior developer and continue doing a job that is fun to me and where I think I'm actually valuable.

          – DarkDust
          2 hours ago






        • 2





          @DarkDust: I totally agree with you. That´s why I wrote the Try to find out ... section. Also, if you employ someone like this, see that he don´t starts to build himself the "ivory tower" i.e. making himself indispensable.

          – Daniel
          2 hours ago






        • 1





          @DarkDust: Another warning, the candidate may just not be that good. I've met my share of "senior" software developers who had simply repeated their junior years over and over, and never demonstrated any kind of seniority except graying at the temples and teenage kids (which doesn't mean they were not diligent in the tasks assigned to them).

          – Matthieu M.
          1 hour ago














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        46








        Why is this OK and not a red flag?




        So you seek someone who will do Software-engineering for you. The candidate you have at hand has a lot of experience in that area. He has achieved the highest rank possible where his main occupation still is software engineering - long ago, and he stayed with it.



        So chances are:




        • He really loves what he is doing.

        • He is good at it and does not do all the expensive rookie mistakes.

        • He does not want to get into a leadership-position and make expensive rookie mistakes there.

        • He is really loyal and if treated right, will stick around your company equally long

        • You won´t have to do expensive recruiting and training of a new developer in 3 years


        Go to see for yourself. Try to find out especially if he is open and interested in new technologies, ideas and engineering-concepts and if he can communicate and share his knowledge with the rest of the team.






        share|improve this answer














        Why is this OK and not a red flag?




        So you seek someone who will do Software-engineering for you. The candidate you have at hand has a lot of experience in that area. He has achieved the highest rank possible where his main occupation still is software engineering - long ago, and he stayed with it.



        So chances are:




        • He really loves what he is doing.

        • He is good at it and does not do all the expensive rookie mistakes.

        • He does not want to get into a leadership-position and make expensive rookie mistakes there.

        • He is really loyal and if treated right, will stick around your company equally long

        • You won´t have to do expensive recruiting and training of a new developer in 3 years


        Go to see for yourself. Try to find out especially if he is open and interested in new technologies, ideas and engineering-concepts and if he can communicate and share his knowledge with the rest of the team.







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        • 2





          Being a person similar to what OP is asking about, I agree with your points. There are, however, things to look out for with such persons as well: the candidate might have a problem with change. Some people react poorly to changing working conditions and this may be a reason he stuck for so long. So be sure to look out for indicators whether this is the case. Also, he might have been working with "old" technology for a long time and may be missing skills necessary for the position in question. Luckily, people with so much experience often learn the missing pieces faster.

          – DarkDust
          2 hours ago






        • 2





          BTW, I did try to get into management and found that I suck at that. It made me unhappy and I was poor in that position. So I happily remain a senior developer and continue doing a job that is fun to me and where I think I'm actually valuable.

          – DarkDust
          2 hours ago






        • 2





          @DarkDust: I totally agree with you. That´s why I wrote the Try to find out ... section. Also, if you employ someone like this, see that he don´t starts to build himself the "ivory tower" i.e. making himself indispensable.

          – Daniel
          2 hours ago






        • 1





          @DarkDust: Another warning, the candidate may just not be that good. I've met my share of "senior" software developers who had simply repeated their junior years over and over, and never demonstrated any kind of seniority except graying at the temples and teenage kids (which doesn't mean they were not diligent in the tasks assigned to them).

          – Matthieu M.
          1 hour ago














        • 2





          Being a person similar to what OP is asking about, I agree with your points. There are, however, things to look out for with such persons as well: the candidate might have a problem with change. Some people react poorly to changing working conditions and this may be a reason he stuck for so long. So be sure to look out for indicators whether this is the case. Also, he might have been working with "old" technology for a long time and may be missing skills necessary for the position in question. Luckily, people with so much experience often learn the missing pieces faster.

          – DarkDust
          2 hours ago






        • 2





          BTW, I did try to get into management and found that I suck at that. It made me unhappy and I was poor in that position. So I happily remain a senior developer and continue doing a job that is fun to me and where I think I'm actually valuable.

          – DarkDust
          2 hours ago






        • 2





          @DarkDust: I totally agree with you. That´s why I wrote the Try to find out ... section. Also, if you employ someone like this, see that he don´t starts to build himself the "ivory tower" i.e. making himself indispensable.

          – Daniel
          2 hours ago






        • 1





          @DarkDust: Another warning, the candidate may just not be that good. I've met my share of "senior" software developers who had simply repeated their junior years over and over, and never demonstrated any kind of seniority except graying at the temples and teenage kids (which doesn't mean they were not diligent in the tasks assigned to them).

          – Matthieu M.
          1 hour ago








        2




        2





        Being a person similar to what OP is asking about, I agree with your points. There are, however, things to look out for with such persons as well: the candidate might have a problem with change. Some people react poorly to changing working conditions and this may be a reason he stuck for so long. So be sure to look out for indicators whether this is the case. Also, he might have been working with "old" technology for a long time and may be missing skills necessary for the position in question. Luckily, people with so much experience often learn the missing pieces faster.

        – DarkDust
        2 hours ago





        Being a person similar to what OP is asking about, I agree with your points. There are, however, things to look out for with such persons as well: the candidate might have a problem with change. Some people react poorly to changing working conditions and this may be a reason he stuck for so long. So be sure to look out for indicators whether this is the case. Also, he might have been working with "old" technology for a long time and may be missing skills necessary for the position in question. Luckily, people with so much experience often learn the missing pieces faster.

        – DarkDust
        2 hours ago




        2




        2





        BTW, I did try to get into management and found that I suck at that. It made me unhappy and I was poor in that position. So I happily remain a senior developer and continue doing a job that is fun to me and where I think I'm actually valuable.

        – DarkDust
        2 hours ago





        BTW, I did try to get into management and found that I suck at that. It made me unhappy and I was poor in that position. So I happily remain a senior developer and continue doing a job that is fun to me and where I think I'm actually valuable.

        – DarkDust
        2 hours ago




        2




        2





        @DarkDust: I totally agree with you. That´s why I wrote the Try to find out ... section. Also, if you employ someone like this, see that he don´t starts to build himself the "ivory tower" i.e. making himself indispensable.

        – Daniel
        2 hours ago





        @DarkDust: I totally agree with you. That´s why I wrote the Try to find out ... section. Also, if you employ someone like this, see that he don´t starts to build himself the "ivory tower" i.e. making himself indispensable.

        – Daniel
        2 hours ago




        1




        1





        @DarkDust: Another warning, the candidate may just not be that good. I've met my share of "senior" software developers who had simply repeated their junior years over and over, and never demonstrated any kind of seniority except graying at the temples and teenage kids (which doesn't mean they were not diligent in the tasks assigned to them).

        – Matthieu M.
        1 hour ago





        @DarkDust: Another warning, the candidate may just not be that good. I've met my share of "senior" software developers who had simply repeated their junior years over and over, and never demonstrated any kind of seniority except graying at the temples and teenage kids (which doesn't mean they were not diligent in the tasks assigned to them).

        – Matthieu M.
        1 hour ago











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        The most important question, in my opinion, is: Can you afford to ignore applicants?



        For development jobs, at least here in Germany, there are so few applicants, that I interview everyone who is not obviously unqualified. I cannot afford to skip over someone based on too little information.



        For other jobs, when you have a hundred applications for one opening, it makes sense to filter more strongly, based on criteria you ideally have defined it advance.



        Yes, what you describe is uncommon, but it's not necessarily bad. In fact, thirty years ago, profiles like this were the norm. At the very least, you have someone who is easily motivated and loyal.






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          The most important question, in my opinion, is: Can you afford to ignore applicants?



          For development jobs, at least here in Germany, there are so few applicants, that I interview everyone who is not obviously unqualified. I cannot afford to skip over someone based on too little information.



          For other jobs, when you have a hundred applications for one opening, it makes sense to filter more strongly, based on criteria you ideally have defined it advance.



          Yes, what you describe is uncommon, but it's not necessarily bad. In fact, thirty years ago, profiles like this were the norm. At the very least, you have someone who is easily motivated and loyal.






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            The most important question, in my opinion, is: Can you afford to ignore applicants?



            For development jobs, at least here in Germany, there are so few applicants, that I interview everyone who is not obviously unqualified. I cannot afford to skip over someone based on too little information.



            For other jobs, when you have a hundred applications for one opening, it makes sense to filter more strongly, based on criteria you ideally have defined it advance.



            Yes, what you describe is uncommon, but it's not necessarily bad. In fact, thirty years ago, profiles like this were the norm. At the very least, you have someone who is easily motivated and loyal.






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            The most important question, in my opinion, is: Can you afford to ignore applicants?



            For development jobs, at least here in Germany, there are so few applicants, that I interview everyone who is not obviously unqualified. I cannot afford to skip over someone based on too little information.



            For other jobs, when you have a hundred applications for one opening, it makes sense to filter more strongly, based on criteria you ideally have defined it advance.



            Yes, what you describe is uncommon, but it's not necessarily bad. In fact, thirty years ago, profiles like this were the norm. At the very least, you have someone who is easily motivated and loyal.







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                Why would it be a red flag? Senior Software Engineer or Software Engineer III could be highest position in his company that still was able to code, so because of that, he maybe didnt want to become a manager or whoever else.



                Not every company creates fancy positions like Senior Ninja Developer or Wizard JS Dev just in order to give promotions






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                  Why would it be a red flag? Senior Software Engineer or Software Engineer III could be highest position in his company that still was able to code, so because of that, he maybe didnt want to become a manager or whoever else.



                  Not every company creates fancy positions like Senior Ninja Developer or Wizard JS Dev just in order to give promotions






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                    Why would it be a red flag? Senior Software Engineer or Software Engineer III could be highest position in his company that still was able to code, so because of that, he maybe didnt want to become a manager or whoever else.



                    Not every company creates fancy positions like Senior Ninja Developer or Wizard JS Dev just in order to give promotions






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                    Why would it be a red flag? Senior Software Engineer or Software Engineer III could be highest position in his company that still was able to code, so because of that, he maybe didnt want to become a manager or whoever else.



                    Not every company creates fancy positions like Senior Ninja Developer or Wizard JS Dev just in order to give promotions







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                        Why is this OK and not a red flag?




                        It depends on the company's culture but for some, it is a red flag.



                        The company I work in, a large one, considers that a candidate like this is not someone to invest in and will call contractors for profiles like this, preferring recruiting people able to "climb the ladder".



                        For some other companies, it is a type of profile they seek in order to have experts / senior developers.



                        TLDR: Ask your management to clarify the profiles they want you to find and if they consider it as a red flag.






                        Will the candidate influence the team in a good way? Or will the candidate seem bored and show tiredness for doing the same thing endlessly?




                        You don't have enough informations to answer this. See the candidate, interview him. Only knowing he has been in the same job for years is not enough.






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                        • How does that answer the question?

                          – Daniel
                          5 hours ago






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                          @Daniel It answers the title and the Why is this OK and not a red flag? question. It is OK only if company's recruiting policy allows it to be OK.

                          – LP154
                          5 hours ago
















                        5















                        Why is this OK and not a red flag?




                        It depends on the company's culture but for some, it is a red flag.



                        The company I work in, a large one, considers that a candidate like this is not someone to invest in and will call contractors for profiles like this, preferring recruiting people able to "climb the ladder".



                        For some other companies, it is a type of profile they seek in order to have experts / senior developers.



                        TLDR: Ask your management to clarify the profiles they want you to find and if they consider it as a red flag.






                        Will the candidate influence the team in a good way? Or will the candidate seem bored and show tiredness for doing the same thing endlessly?




                        You don't have enough informations to answer this. See the candidate, interview him. Only knowing he has been in the same job for years is not enough.






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                        • How does that answer the question?

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                          5 hours ago






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                          @Daniel It answers the title and the Why is this OK and not a red flag? question. It is OK only if company's recruiting policy allows it to be OK.

                          – LP154
                          5 hours ago














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                        5








                        Why is this OK and not a red flag?




                        It depends on the company's culture but for some, it is a red flag.



                        The company I work in, a large one, considers that a candidate like this is not someone to invest in and will call contractors for profiles like this, preferring recruiting people able to "climb the ladder".



                        For some other companies, it is a type of profile they seek in order to have experts / senior developers.



                        TLDR: Ask your management to clarify the profiles they want you to find and if they consider it as a red flag.






                        Will the candidate influence the team in a good way? Or will the candidate seem bored and show tiredness for doing the same thing endlessly?




                        You don't have enough informations to answer this. See the candidate, interview him. Only knowing he has been in the same job for years is not enough.






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                        Why is this OK and not a red flag?




                        It depends on the company's culture but for some, it is a red flag.



                        The company I work in, a large one, considers that a candidate like this is not someone to invest in and will call contractors for profiles like this, preferring recruiting people able to "climb the ladder".



                        For some other companies, it is a type of profile they seek in order to have experts / senior developers.



                        TLDR: Ask your management to clarify the profiles they want you to find and if they consider it as a red flag.






                        Will the candidate influence the team in a good way? Or will the candidate seem bored and show tiredness for doing the same thing endlessly?




                        You don't have enough informations to answer this. See the candidate, interview him. Only knowing he has been in the same job for years is not enough.







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                        • How does that answer the question?

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                          5 hours ago






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                          @Daniel It answers the title and the Why is this OK and not a red flag? question. It is OK only if company's recruiting policy allows it to be OK.

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                        • How does that answer the question?

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                          @Daniel It answers the title and the Why is this OK and not a red flag? question. It is OK only if company's recruiting policy allows it to be OK.

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                        How does that answer the question?

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                        How does that answer the question?

                        – Daniel
                        5 hours ago




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                        @Daniel It answers the title and the Why is this OK and not a red flag? question. It is OK only if company's recruiting policy allows it to be OK.

                        – LP154
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                        @Daniel It answers the title and the Why is this OK and not a red flag? question. It is OK only if company's recruiting policy allows it to be OK.

                        – LP154
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                        • Consider that "the same position" doesn't necessarily mean the same team, tech stack, project or even the same office. I personally work with a different client every 6-12 months, and I've learned a lot of new technologies, gotten significant raises, moved to a different branch, all without my job title ever changing. That might not be the norm, but it happens. Ask the candidate about some war stories, they might surprise you.


                        • Some companies offer job security and new toys. At my last client (key player in a very lucrative segment) all but one or two of my colleagues had been at the company for 10+ years. Yes, there were a handful that disliked having to learn new tech, but they were a minority.


                        • They might have been very invested in the job or the company. Could be a project they championed, improvements to the workflow they made over time, or perhaps the company was a successful startup?







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                          • Consider that "the same position" doesn't necessarily mean the same team, tech stack, project or even the same office. I personally work with a different client every 6-12 months, and I've learned a lot of new technologies, gotten significant raises, moved to a different branch, all without my job title ever changing. That might not be the norm, but it happens. Ask the candidate about some war stories, they might surprise you.


                          • Some companies offer job security and new toys. At my last client (key player in a very lucrative segment) all but one or two of my colleagues had been at the company for 10+ years. Yes, there were a handful that disliked having to learn new tech, but they were a minority.


                          • They might have been very invested in the job or the company. Could be a project they championed, improvements to the workflow they made over time, or perhaps the company was a successful startup?







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                            • Consider that "the same position" doesn't necessarily mean the same team, tech stack, project or even the same office. I personally work with a different client every 6-12 months, and I've learned a lot of new technologies, gotten significant raises, moved to a different branch, all without my job title ever changing. That might not be the norm, but it happens. Ask the candidate about some war stories, they might surprise you.


                            • Some companies offer job security and new toys. At my last client (key player in a very lucrative segment) all but one or two of my colleagues had been at the company for 10+ years. Yes, there were a handful that disliked having to learn new tech, but they were a minority.


                            • They might have been very invested in the job or the company. Could be a project they championed, improvements to the workflow they made over time, or perhaps the company was a successful startup?







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                            • Consider that "the same position" doesn't necessarily mean the same team, tech stack, project or even the same office. I personally work with a different client every 6-12 months, and I've learned a lot of new technologies, gotten significant raises, moved to a different branch, all without my job title ever changing. That might not be the norm, but it happens. Ask the candidate about some war stories, they might surprise you.


                            • Some companies offer job security and new toys. At my last client (key player in a very lucrative segment) all but one or two of my colleagues had been at the company for 10+ years. Yes, there were a handful that disliked having to learn new tech, but they were a minority.


                            • They might have been very invested in the job or the company. Could be a project they championed, improvements to the workflow they made over time, or perhaps the company was a successful startup?








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                            answered 1 hour ago









                            Ruther RendommeleighRuther Rendommeleigh

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                                All you can infer from this information is either:




                                • The developer has reached their comfort zone in capability, and is unwilling to take on aditional responsabilities (people management, project management, etc) as mandated by their current employer's structure.


                                • The developer has some specific weakness which limits their progression in the above structure (e.g. inability to work well with non-technical, non-expert staff).



                                You also know they have held a position for an extended period of time, so you can be reasonably confident in identifying their current potential.



                                Now, you ask about how this will affect your team. This depends on if your team are all expected to move on to be managers in a few years, if you have a high turnover, how diverse the age and experience range currently is, if you feel secure in managing your team - but if you're genuinely recruiting for the role you have matched this candidate too, you might have a very good opportunity. There is no hint of a red flag compared with any other potential candiate based on this information.



                                On the other hand, 15 years experience with 20 different roles does start to look like a candidate who still hasn't found something that they feel they can do well.






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                                • No, you cannot reasonably infer either of those things.

                                  – Kevin
                                  40 mins ago











                                • I didn't say you should, just that the data supports nothing else.

                                  – Sean Houlihane
                                  39 mins ago











                                • The data doesn't support your assumptions either. There are myriad other reasons why an employee may stay that long in a position. The company may have offered great benefits beyond pay that no other company had been able to match. The person may have simply really enjoyed his job and valued that over advancement. They may have simply been of the old school mindset that you don't change jobs every few years. They may have a medical condition that caused them to stay put, either for work environment or insurance reasons.

                                  – Kevin
                                  29 mins ago
















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                                All you can infer from this information is either:




                                • The developer has reached their comfort zone in capability, and is unwilling to take on aditional responsabilities (people management, project management, etc) as mandated by their current employer's structure.


                                • The developer has some specific weakness which limits their progression in the above structure (e.g. inability to work well with non-technical, non-expert staff).



                                You also know they have held a position for an extended period of time, so you can be reasonably confident in identifying their current potential.



                                Now, you ask about how this will affect your team. This depends on if your team are all expected to move on to be managers in a few years, if you have a high turnover, how diverse the age and experience range currently is, if you feel secure in managing your team - but if you're genuinely recruiting for the role you have matched this candidate too, you might have a very good opportunity. There is no hint of a red flag compared with any other potential candiate based on this information.



                                On the other hand, 15 years experience with 20 different roles does start to look like a candidate who still hasn't found something that they feel they can do well.






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                                • No, you cannot reasonably infer either of those things.

                                  – Kevin
                                  40 mins ago











                                • I didn't say you should, just that the data supports nothing else.

                                  – Sean Houlihane
                                  39 mins ago











                                • The data doesn't support your assumptions either. There are myriad other reasons why an employee may stay that long in a position. The company may have offered great benefits beyond pay that no other company had been able to match. The person may have simply really enjoyed his job and valued that over advancement. They may have simply been of the old school mindset that you don't change jobs every few years. They may have a medical condition that caused them to stay put, either for work environment or insurance reasons.

                                  – Kevin
                                  29 mins ago














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                                All you can infer from this information is either:




                                • The developer has reached their comfort zone in capability, and is unwilling to take on aditional responsabilities (people management, project management, etc) as mandated by their current employer's structure.


                                • The developer has some specific weakness which limits their progression in the above structure (e.g. inability to work well with non-technical, non-expert staff).



                                You also know they have held a position for an extended period of time, so you can be reasonably confident in identifying their current potential.



                                Now, you ask about how this will affect your team. This depends on if your team are all expected to move on to be managers in a few years, if you have a high turnover, how diverse the age and experience range currently is, if you feel secure in managing your team - but if you're genuinely recruiting for the role you have matched this candidate too, you might have a very good opportunity. There is no hint of a red flag compared with any other potential candiate based on this information.



                                On the other hand, 15 years experience with 20 different roles does start to look like a candidate who still hasn't found something that they feel they can do well.






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                                All you can infer from this information is either:




                                • The developer has reached their comfort zone in capability, and is unwilling to take on aditional responsabilities (people management, project management, etc) as mandated by their current employer's structure.


                                • The developer has some specific weakness which limits their progression in the above structure (e.g. inability to work well with non-technical, non-expert staff).



                                You also know they have held a position for an extended period of time, so you can be reasonably confident in identifying their current potential.



                                Now, you ask about how this will affect your team. This depends on if your team are all expected to move on to be managers in a few years, if you have a high turnover, how diverse the age and experience range currently is, if you feel secure in managing your team - but if you're genuinely recruiting for the role you have matched this candidate too, you might have a very good opportunity. There is no hint of a red flag compared with any other potential candiate based on this information.



                                On the other hand, 15 years experience with 20 different roles does start to look like a candidate who still hasn't found something that they feel they can do well.







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                                answered 1 hour ago









                                Sean HoulihaneSean Houlihane

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                                • No, you cannot reasonably infer either of those things.

                                  – Kevin
                                  40 mins ago











                                • I didn't say you should, just that the data supports nothing else.

                                  – Sean Houlihane
                                  39 mins ago











                                • The data doesn't support your assumptions either. There are myriad other reasons why an employee may stay that long in a position. The company may have offered great benefits beyond pay that no other company had been able to match. The person may have simply really enjoyed his job and valued that over advancement. They may have simply been of the old school mindset that you don't change jobs every few years. They may have a medical condition that caused them to stay put, either for work environment or insurance reasons.

                                  – Kevin
                                  29 mins ago



















                                • No, you cannot reasonably infer either of those things.

                                  – Kevin
                                  40 mins ago











                                • I didn't say you should, just that the data supports nothing else.

                                  – Sean Houlihane
                                  39 mins ago











                                • The data doesn't support your assumptions either. There are myriad other reasons why an employee may stay that long in a position. The company may have offered great benefits beyond pay that no other company had been able to match. The person may have simply really enjoyed his job and valued that over advancement. They may have simply been of the old school mindset that you don't change jobs every few years. They may have a medical condition that caused them to stay put, either for work environment or insurance reasons.

                                  – Kevin
                                  29 mins ago

















                                No, you cannot reasonably infer either of those things.

                                – Kevin
                                40 mins ago





                                No, you cannot reasonably infer either of those things.

                                – Kevin
                                40 mins ago













                                I didn't say you should, just that the data supports nothing else.

                                – Sean Houlihane
                                39 mins ago





                                I didn't say you should, just that the data supports nothing else.

                                – Sean Houlihane
                                39 mins ago













                                The data doesn't support your assumptions either. There are myriad other reasons why an employee may stay that long in a position. The company may have offered great benefits beyond pay that no other company had been able to match. The person may have simply really enjoyed his job and valued that over advancement. They may have simply been of the old school mindset that you don't change jobs every few years. They may have a medical condition that caused them to stay put, either for work environment or insurance reasons.

                                – Kevin
                                29 mins ago





                                The data doesn't support your assumptions either. There are myriad other reasons why an employee may stay that long in a position. The company may have offered great benefits beyond pay that no other company had been able to match. The person may have simply really enjoyed his job and valued that over advancement. They may have simply been of the old school mindset that you don't change jobs every few years. They may have a medical condition that caused them to stay put, either for work environment or insurance reasons.

                                – Kevin
                                29 mins ago





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