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So I was looking to upgrade one of my skills and noticed that Packmaster was colored blue. At first I thought that the blue colored upgrades were the selected upgrades when more than one are unlocked (e.g. Domination), but in the case of Packmaster, that's the only available upgrade for that skill. None of the others are colored this way, they're just white or greyed out. And it can't be a story unlock, Packmaster was just a regular upgrade.



What does the blue color for the icons indicate?



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    Perhaps to indicate that it's a domination skill? As your hand print is blue, as are your Orks and Fortresses.

    – David Yell
    Oct 16 '17 at 11:35











  • Actually, that's a pretty good point. I'm not sure if there's any other domination-type upgrades, I certainly haven't upgraded to them yet. That'll be a good test if there are others.

    – Jeff Mercado
    Oct 16 '17 at 14:07











  • So I've unlocked a few more upgrades, many of which I believe are domination-type upgrades, but they're not blue. It must be something else.

    – Jeff Mercado
    Oct 18 '17 at 5:06
















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So I was looking to upgrade one of my skills and noticed that Packmaster was colored blue. At first I thought that the blue colored upgrades were the selected upgrades when more than one are unlocked (e.g. Domination), but in the case of Packmaster, that's the only available upgrade for that skill. None of the others are colored this way, they're just white or greyed out. And it can't be a story unlock, Packmaster was just a regular upgrade.



What does the blue color for the icons indicate?



blue PackmasterDomination is blue, but Packmaster is as well










share|improve this question




















  • 2





    Perhaps to indicate that it's a domination skill? As your hand print is blue, as are your Orks and Fortresses.

    – David Yell
    Oct 16 '17 at 11:35











  • Actually, that's a pretty good point. I'm not sure if there's any other domination-type upgrades, I certainly haven't upgraded to them yet. That'll be a good test if there are others.

    – Jeff Mercado
    Oct 16 '17 at 14:07











  • So I've unlocked a few more upgrades, many of which I believe are domination-type upgrades, but they're not blue. It must be something else.

    – Jeff Mercado
    Oct 18 '17 at 5:06














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So I was looking to upgrade one of my skills and noticed that Packmaster was colored blue. At first I thought that the blue colored upgrades were the selected upgrades when more than one are unlocked (e.g. Domination), but in the case of Packmaster, that's the only available upgrade for that skill. None of the others are colored this way, they're just white or greyed out. And it can't be a story unlock, Packmaster was just a regular upgrade.



What does the blue color for the icons indicate?



blue PackmasterDomination is blue, but Packmaster is as well










share|improve this question
















So I was looking to upgrade one of my skills and noticed that Packmaster was colored blue. At first I thought that the blue colored upgrades were the selected upgrades when more than one are unlocked (e.g. Domination), but in the case of Packmaster, that's the only available upgrade for that skill. None of the others are colored this way, they're just white or greyed out. And it can't be a story unlock, Packmaster was just a regular upgrade.



What does the blue color for the icons indicate?



blue PackmasterDomination is blue, but Packmaster is as well







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    Perhaps to indicate that it's a domination skill? As your hand print is blue, as are your Orks and Fortresses.

    – David Yell
    Oct 16 '17 at 11:35











  • Actually, that's a pretty good point. I'm not sure if there's any other domination-type upgrades, I certainly haven't upgraded to them yet. That'll be a good test if there are others.

    – Jeff Mercado
    Oct 16 '17 at 14:07











  • So I've unlocked a few more upgrades, many of which I believe are domination-type upgrades, but they're not blue. It must be something else.

    – Jeff Mercado
    Oct 18 '17 at 5:06














  • 2





    Perhaps to indicate that it's a domination skill? As your hand print is blue, as are your Orks and Fortresses.

    – David Yell
    Oct 16 '17 at 11:35











  • Actually, that's a pretty good point. I'm not sure if there's any other domination-type upgrades, I certainly haven't upgraded to them yet. That'll be a good test if there are others.

    – Jeff Mercado
    Oct 16 '17 at 14:07











  • So I've unlocked a few more upgrades, many of which I believe are domination-type upgrades, but they're not blue. It must be something else.

    – Jeff Mercado
    Oct 18 '17 at 5:06








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Perhaps to indicate that it's a domination skill? As your hand print is blue, as are your Orks and Fortresses.

– David Yell
Oct 16 '17 at 11:35





Perhaps to indicate that it's a domination skill? As your hand print is blue, as are your Orks and Fortresses.

– David Yell
Oct 16 '17 at 11:35













Actually, that's a pretty good point. I'm not sure if there's any other domination-type upgrades, I certainly haven't upgraded to them yet. That'll be a good test if there are others.

– Jeff Mercado
Oct 16 '17 at 14:07





Actually, that's a pretty good point. I'm not sure if there's any other domination-type upgrades, I certainly haven't upgraded to them yet. That'll be a good test if there are others.

– Jeff Mercado
Oct 16 '17 at 14:07













So I've unlocked a few more upgrades, many of which I believe are domination-type upgrades, but they're not blue. It must be something else.

– Jeff Mercado
Oct 18 '17 at 5:06





So I've unlocked a few more upgrades, many of which I believe are domination-type upgrades, but they're not blue. It must be something else.

– Jeff Mercado
Oct 18 '17 at 5:06










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I try to write this without any spoilers, but it is a bit hard. If you haven't finished the game yet, proceed at own risk.



I noticed it too and couldn't find any correlation and just brushed it off as nothing special. After seeing your question here I started the game again and went to the skills menu. Note that I finished the game and got every single skills unlocked.



There are a few things to notice:




  • Through the Shadow of War main game and Blade of Galadriel DLC the upgrades Domination and Packmaster are the only blue icon's. For the Baranor DLC there are other icons blue, but it is meant to bring distinction between characters and it is quite obvious it has nothing to do with the skill itself.

  • The two upgrades are always blue, whether they are active or not.

  • The upgrades both are relevant to domination (orc's and caragors)

  • Blue is the color of the wraith celebrimbor

  • Packmaster doens't seem to work anymore in the final act

  • Domination isn't exactly the same anymore in the final act, but overal it still does roughly the same thing.

  • All other domination skills stay the same in the final act

  • The same icon for Domination is used in white for Raise Dead -> Undying Loyalty (final act)

  • Other related (non-blue) skills:


    • Ground finisher - Ground drain: This might use the same action, but is not based on domination, but rather on drain. If you disable the Domination upgrade, this upgrade still does what it should do.

    • Deadly Spectre - Spirit Drain: Same story as ground drain, can still be used with Domination disabled.

    • Shadow Strike - Shadow Dominate: This is an odd one, it still works with Domination upgrade disabled and is the only way to dominate an orc or (broken) beast with Domination disabled.

    • Dominate Captain: This skill does not depend on the Domination upgrade and once you complete the related quest, you can always dominate captains.




I tested the Packmaster upgrade multiple times with multiple (broken) caragors in the final act but I always ended up with 1 caragor, can somebody confirm?
If this holds, the blue color seems to suggest that the original functioning is tied to Celebrimbor and might be changed in the final act. The color difference in icon with Undying Loyalty could explain this.



I know this isn't hard proof but is is the closest I could come. IF anyone has some suggestions, feel welcome to post them in comments.






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    Blue skill icons indicate abilities that are carried out through Talion by Celebrimbor:




    The Ranger path of the skill tree focuses on stealth and melee
    weapons, whereas the Wraith path takes a more supernatural approach,
    including abilities for archery and crowd control. Ranger abilities
    are highlighted red. Wraith abilities are highlighted blue.




    Found here, on the Shadow of War fandom website.






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    • And aren't both of the mentioned skills - Domination and Packmaster - characterized by fiery blue/white wraith eyes? I've only played Shadow of Mordor myself.

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    I try to write this without any spoilers, but it is a bit hard. If you haven't finished the game yet, proceed at own risk.



    I noticed it too and couldn't find any correlation and just brushed it off as nothing special. After seeing your question here I started the game again and went to the skills menu. Note that I finished the game and got every single skills unlocked.



    There are a few things to notice:




    • Through the Shadow of War main game and Blade of Galadriel DLC the upgrades Domination and Packmaster are the only blue icon's. For the Baranor DLC there are other icons blue, but it is meant to bring distinction between characters and it is quite obvious it has nothing to do with the skill itself.

    • The two upgrades are always blue, whether they are active or not.

    • The upgrades both are relevant to domination (orc's and caragors)

    • Blue is the color of the wraith celebrimbor

    • Packmaster doens't seem to work anymore in the final act

    • Domination isn't exactly the same anymore in the final act, but overal it still does roughly the same thing.

    • All other domination skills stay the same in the final act

    • The same icon for Domination is used in white for Raise Dead -> Undying Loyalty (final act)

    • Other related (non-blue) skills:


      • Ground finisher - Ground drain: This might use the same action, but is not based on domination, but rather on drain. If you disable the Domination upgrade, this upgrade still does what it should do.

      • Deadly Spectre - Spirit Drain: Same story as ground drain, can still be used with Domination disabled.

      • Shadow Strike - Shadow Dominate: This is an odd one, it still works with Domination upgrade disabled and is the only way to dominate an orc or (broken) beast with Domination disabled.

      • Dominate Captain: This skill does not depend on the Domination upgrade and once you complete the related quest, you can always dominate captains.




    I tested the Packmaster upgrade multiple times with multiple (broken) caragors in the final act but I always ended up with 1 caragor, can somebody confirm?
    If this holds, the blue color seems to suggest that the original functioning is tied to Celebrimbor and might be changed in the final act. The color difference in icon with Undying Loyalty could explain this.



    I know this isn't hard proof but is is the closest I could come. IF anyone has some suggestions, feel welcome to post them in comments.






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      I try to write this without any spoilers, but it is a bit hard. If you haven't finished the game yet, proceed at own risk.



      I noticed it too and couldn't find any correlation and just brushed it off as nothing special. After seeing your question here I started the game again and went to the skills menu. Note that I finished the game and got every single skills unlocked.



      There are a few things to notice:




      • Through the Shadow of War main game and Blade of Galadriel DLC the upgrades Domination and Packmaster are the only blue icon's. For the Baranor DLC there are other icons blue, but it is meant to bring distinction between characters and it is quite obvious it has nothing to do with the skill itself.

      • The two upgrades are always blue, whether they are active or not.

      • The upgrades both are relevant to domination (orc's and caragors)

      • Blue is the color of the wraith celebrimbor

      • Packmaster doens't seem to work anymore in the final act

      • Domination isn't exactly the same anymore in the final act, but overal it still does roughly the same thing.

      • All other domination skills stay the same in the final act

      • The same icon for Domination is used in white for Raise Dead -> Undying Loyalty (final act)

      • Other related (non-blue) skills:


        • Ground finisher - Ground drain: This might use the same action, but is not based on domination, but rather on drain. If you disable the Domination upgrade, this upgrade still does what it should do.

        • Deadly Spectre - Spirit Drain: Same story as ground drain, can still be used with Domination disabled.

        • Shadow Strike - Shadow Dominate: This is an odd one, it still works with Domination upgrade disabled and is the only way to dominate an orc or (broken) beast with Domination disabled.

        • Dominate Captain: This skill does not depend on the Domination upgrade and once you complete the related quest, you can always dominate captains.




      I tested the Packmaster upgrade multiple times with multiple (broken) caragors in the final act but I always ended up with 1 caragor, can somebody confirm?
      If this holds, the blue color seems to suggest that the original functioning is tied to Celebrimbor and might be changed in the final act. The color difference in icon with Undying Loyalty could explain this.



      I know this isn't hard proof but is is the closest I could come. IF anyone has some suggestions, feel welcome to post them in comments.






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        I try to write this without any spoilers, but it is a bit hard. If you haven't finished the game yet, proceed at own risk.



        I noticed it too and couldn't find any correlation and just brushed it off as nothing special. After seeing your question here I started the game again and went to the skills menu. Note that I finished the game and got every single skills unlocked.



        There are a few things to notice:




        • Through the Shadow of War main game and Blade of Galadriel DLC the upgrades Domination and Packmaster are the only blue icon's. For the Baranor DLC there are other icons blue, but it is meant to bring distinction between characters and it is quite obvious it has nothing to do with the skill itself.

        • The two upgrades are always blue, whether they are active or not.

        • The upgrades both are relevant to domination (orc's and caragors)

        • Blue is the color of the wraith celebrimbor

        • Packmaster doens't seem to work anymore in the final act

        • Domination isn't exactly the same anymore in the final act, but overal it still does roughly the same thing.

        • All other domination skills stay the same in the final act

        • The same icon for Domination is used in white for Raise Dead -> Undying Loyalty (final act)

        • Other related (non-blue) skills:


          • Ground finisher - Ground drain: This might use the same action, but is not based on domination, but rather on drain. If you disable the Domination upgrade, this upgrade still does what it should do.

          • Deadly Spectre - Spirit Drain: Same story as ground drain, can still be used with Domination disabled.

          • Shadow Strike - Shadow Dominate: This is an odd one, it still works with Domination upgrade disabled and is the only way to dominate an orc or (broken) beast with Domination disabled.

          • Dominate Captain: This skill does not depend on the Domination upgrade and once you complete the related quest, you can always dominate captains.




        I tested the Packmaster upgrade multiple times with multiple (broken) caragors in the final act but I always ended up with 1 caragor, can somebody confirm?
        If this holds, the blue color seems to suggest that the original functioning is tied to Celebrimbor and might be changed in the final act. The color difference in icon with Undying Loyalty could explain this.



        I know this isn't hard proof but is is the closest I could come. IF anyone has some suggestions, feel welcome to post them in comments.






        share|improve this answer













        I try to write this without any spoilers, but it is a bit hard. If you haven't finished the game yet, proceed at own risk.



        I noticed it too and couldn't find any correlation and just brushed it off as nothing special. After seeing your question here I started the game again and went to the skills menu. Note that I finished the game and got every single skills unlocked.



        There are a few things to notice:




        • Through the Shadow of War main game and Blade of Galadriel DLC the upgrades Domination and Packmaster are the only blue icon's. For the Baranor DLC there are other icons blue, but it is meant to bring distinction between characters and it is quite obvious it has nothing to do with the skill itself.

        • The two upgrades are always blue, whether they are active or not.

        • The upgrades both are relevant to domination (orc's and caragors)

        • Blue is the color of the wraith celebrimbor

        • Packmaster doens't seem to work anymore in the final act

        • Domination isn't exactly the same anymore in the final act, but overal it still does roughly the same thing.

        • All other domination skills stay the same in the final act

        • The same icon for Domination is used in white for Raise Dead -> Undying Loyalty (final act)

        • Other related (non-blue) skills:


          • Ground finisher - Ground drain: This might use the same action, but is not based on domination, but rather on drain. If you disable the Domination upgrade, this upgrade still does what it should do.

          • Deadly Spectre - Spirit Drain: Same story as ground drain, can still be used with Domination disabled.

          • Shadow Strike - Shadow Dominate: This is an odd one, it still works with Domination upgrade disabled and is the only way to dominate an orc or (broken) beast with Domination disabled.

          • Dominate Captain: This skill does not depend on the Domination upgrade and once you complete the related quest, you can always dominate captains.




        I tested the Packmaster upgrade multiple times with multiple (broken) caragors in the final act but I always ended up with 1 caragor, can somebody confirm?
        If this holds, the blue color seems to suggest that the original functioning is tied to Celebrimbor and might be changed in the final act. The color difference in icon with Undying Loyalty could explain this.



        I know this isn't hard proof but is is the closest I could come. IF anyone has some suggestions, feel welcome to post them in comments.







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            Blue skill icons indicate abilities that are carried out through Talion by Celebrimbor:




            The Ranger path of the skill tree focuses on stealth and melee
            weapons, whereas the Wraith path takes a more supernatural approach,
            including abilities for archery and crowd control. Ranger abilities
            are highlighted red. Wraith abilities are highlighted blue.




            Found here, on the Shadow of War fandom website.






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            • And aren't both of the mentioned skills - Domination and Packmaster - characterized by fiery blue/white wraith eyes? I've only played Shadow of Mordor myself.

              – Joachim
              2 hours ago













            • Why was this downvoted?

              – Joachim
              39 mins ago
















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            Blue skill icons indicate abilities that are carried out through Talion by Celebrimbor:




            The Ranger path of the skill tree focuses on stealth and melee
            weapons, whereas the Wraith path takes a more supernatural approach,
            including abilities for archery and crowd control. Ranger abilities
            are highlighted red. Wraith abilities are highlighted blue.




            Found here, on the Shadow of War fandom website.






            share|improve this answer
























            • And aren't both of the mentioned skills - Domination and Packmaster - characterized by fiery blue/white wraith eyes? I've only played Shadow of Mordor myself.

              – Joachim
              2 hours ago













            • Why was this downvoted?

              – Joachim
              39 mins ago














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            Blue skill icons indicate abilities that are carried out through Talion by Celebrimbor:




            The Ranger path of the skill tree focuses on stealth and melee
            weapons, whereas the Wraith path takes a more supernatural approach,
            including abilities for archery and crowd control. Ranger abilities
            are highlighted red. Wraith abilities are highlighted blue.




            Found here, on the Shadow of War fandom website.






            share|improve this answer













            Blue skill icons indicate abilities that are carried out through Talion by Celebrimbor:




            The Ranger path of the skill tree focuses on stealth and melee
            weapons, whereas the Wraith path takes a more supernatural approach,
            including abilities for archery and crowd control. Ranger abilities
            are highlighted red. Wraith abilities are highlighted blue.




            Found here, on the Shadow of War fandom website.







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            • And aren't both of the mentioned skills - Domination and Packmaster - characterized by fiery blue/white wraith eyes? I've only played Shadow of Mordor myself.

              – Joachim
              2 hours ago













            • Why was this downvoted?

              – Joachim
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            • And aren't both of the mentioned skills - Domination and Packmaster - characterized by fiery blue/white wraith eyes? I've only played Shadow of Mordor myself.

              – Joachim
              2 hours ago













            • Why was this downvoted?

              – Joachim
              39 mins ago

















            And aren't both of the mentioned skills - Domination and Packmaster - characterized by fiery blue/white wraith eyes? I've only played Shadow of Mordor myself.

            – Joachim
            2 hours ago







            And aren't both of the mentioned skills - Domination and Packmaster - characterized by fiery blue/white wraith eyes? I've only played Shadow of Mordor myself.

            – Joachim
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            Why was this downvoted?

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            Why was this downvoted?

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