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Weapon scaling in “One Tamriel” update 14 (and onwards) regarding leveling?

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Ì noticed that if I had a level 48 sword, and was level 48, it did X amount of damage.

Once I leveled up to level 49, it did Y amount of damage, where Y was less than X.

My guess is that the actual damage output of a weapon is also dependent on the level difference between the item and your level.

This has held true also through champion levels but I see mention of 160 being one sort of cap and 561 another.

My question is this, is my understanding which I will write out below correct?

• Weapon output is indeed also dependant on the level difference between the item and your own level, leveling above the item level will decrease its damage output (and this also seems to hold true for armor, decrease its armor or other bonuses).


• This is also true upwards through champion points from level 50


• 
  However, once at 160, everything stops scaling. Weapons stop "downgrading" once I reach 170, 180, etc.

The last point is the important one. Is the above true?

I'm on console, Xbox One, but I don't think this matters.

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Ì noticed that if I had a level 48 sword, and was level 48, it did X amount of damage.

Once I leveled up to level 49, it did Y amount of damage, where Y was less than X.

My guess is that the actual damage output of a weapon is also dependent on the level difference between the item and your level.

This has held true also through champion levels but I see mention of 160 being one sort of cap and 561 another.

My question is this, is my understanding which I will write out below correct?

• Weapon output is indeed also dependant on the level difference between the item and your own level, leveling above the item level will decrease its damage output (and this also seems to hold true for armor, decrease its armor or other bonuses).


• This is also true upwards through champion points from level 50


• 
  However, once at 160, everything stops scaling. Weapons stop "downgrading" once I reach 170, 180, etc.

The last point is the important one. Is the above true?

I'm on console, Xbox One, but I don't think this matters.

the-elder-scrolls-online

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asked Jan 9 '17 at 19:11

Lasse Vågsæther KarlsenLasse Vågsæther Karlsen

3,907185598

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Ì noticed that if I had a level 48 sword, and was level 48, it did X amount of damage.

Once I leveled up to level 49, it did Y amount of damage, where Y was less than X.

My guess is that the actual damage output of a weapon is also dependent on the level difference between the item and your level.

This has held true also through champion levels but I see mention of 160 being one sort of cap and 561 another.

My question is this, is my understanding which I will write out below correct?

• Weapon output is indeed also dependant on the level difference between the item and your own level, leveling above the item level will decrease its damage output (and this also seems to hold true for armor, decrease its armor or other bonuses).


• This is also true upwards through champion points from level 50


• 
  However, once at 160, everything stops scaling. Weapons stop "downgrading" once I reach 170, 180, etc.

The last point is the important one. Is the above true?

I'm on console, Xbox One, but I don't think this matters.

the-elder-scrolls-online

share|improve this question

asked Jan 9 '17 at 19:11

Lasse Vågsæther KarlsenLasse Vågsæther Karlsen

3,907185598

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asked Jan 9 '17 at 19:11

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Yes, your items won't get any stronger once you hit Champion 160 (except from additional passive Champion points invested in passive abilities of course) and they scale below that level based on your own character level.

So a Champion 160 character with a Champion 150 weapon should indeed be weaker than a Champion 150 character with a Champion 150 weapon.

This scaling will stop with Champion 160 for obvious reasons since it's the maximum item level right now. So once you're using Champion 160 items, they'll no longer scale worse no matter your increasing champion level.

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answered Jan 9 '17 at 19:56

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  But what about a champion 160 weapon and me being champion points 170, then 180, 190, etc. ? Will the gear get progressively worse the same way as a level 45 item got progressively worse as I became 46, then 47, then 48, etc.? Or will the different no longer impact the weapon at 160?
  
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  Jan 9 '17 at 21:00
  

  
  
  
  


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  In other words, you confirm that 160 character with 150 gear will be weaker than a 150 character with 150 gear, so my question is what about a 170 character with 160 gear, will the "weakening" part stop at 160?
  
  – Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen
  Jan 9 '17 at 21:03
  

  
  
  
  


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  It will stop, because CP160 is the current maximum regarding raw character power/equipment. Above that only progression left are champion passives.
  
  – Mario
  Jan 9 '17 at 21:07
  

  
  
  
  


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  OK, nice, thanks, please edit this last part into your answer so that the answer is complete without the comments.
  
  – Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen
  Jan 9 '17 at 21:11
  

  
  
  
  

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Im cp 533, my stats went down from lvl 49 to hitting 50 which actually made me 533. Same gear only instead of lvl 46 it's cp 160 and still weaker across the board. Honestly it ruins the game for me as I like to see progression, makes zero since to me to get weaker as I gain exp. I mean if you go to the gym and get weaker despite exercising you'll stop going. If you get fatter by dieting and restricting yourself, you'll stop the diet. If I make less money at my job the longer I'm there, I'll find another job. This leveling is irritating. But when I hit 160 ur capped and it's equal, no it's not, like I said, same gear between lvl 46 and cp 533, the 533 gives me weaker stars across the board. Not huge difference, but like I said, if my boss came to me and said hey this year I'm paying you a dollar less, I'd quit.

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Yes, your items won't get any stronger once you hit Champion 160 (except from additional passive Champion points invested in passive abilities of course) and they scale below that level based on your own character level.

So a Champion 160 character with a Champion 150 weapon should indeed be weaker than a Champion 150 character with a Champion 150 weapon.

This scaling will stop with Champion 160 for obvious reasons since it's the maximum item level right now. So once you're using Champion 160 items, they'll no longer scale worse no matter your increasing champion level.

share|improve this answer

edited Jan 9 '17 at 23:19

answered Jan 9 '17 at 19:56

MarioMario

8,16912440

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  But what about a champion 160 weapon and me being champion points 170, then 180, 190, etc. ? Will the gear get progressively worse the same way as a level 45 item got progressively worse as I became 46, then 47, then 48, etc.? Or will the different no longer impact the weapon at 160?
  
  – Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen
  Jan 9 '17 at 21:00
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  In other words, you confirm that 160 character with 150 gear will be weaker than a 150 character with 150 gear, so my question is what about a 170 character with 160 gear, will the "weakening" part stop at 160?
  
  – Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen
  Jan 9 '17 at 21:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  It will stop, because CP160 is the current maximum regarding raw character power/equipment. Above that only progression left are champion passives.
  
  – Mario
  Jan 9 '17 at 21:07
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  OK, nice, thanks, please edit this last part into your answer so that the answer is complete without the comments.
  
  – Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen
  Jan 9 '17 at 21:11
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

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Yes, your items won't get any stronger once you hit Champion 160 (except from additional passive Champion points invested in passive abilities of course) and they scale below that level based on your own character level.

So a Champion 160 character with a Champion 150 weapon should indeed be weaker than a Champion 150 character with a Champion 150 weapon.

This scaling will stop with Champion 160 for obvious reasons since it's the maximum item level right now. So once you're using Champion 160 items, they'll no longer scale worse no matter your increasing champion level.

share|improve this answer

edited Jan 9 '17 at 23:19

answered Jan 9 '17 at 19:56

MarioMario

8,16912440

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  But what about a champion 160 weapon and me being champion points 170, then 180, 190, etc. ? Will the gear get progressively worse the same way as a level 45 item got progressively worse as I became 46, then 47, then 48, etc.? Or will the different no longer impact the weapon at 160?
  
  – Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen
  Jan 9 '17 at 21:00
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  In other words, you confirm that 160 character with 150 gear will be weaker than a 150 character with 150 gear, so my question is what about a 170 character with 160 gear, will the "weakening" part stop at 160?
  
  – Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen
  Jan 9 '17 at 21:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  It will stop, because CP160 is the current maximum regarding raw character power/equipment. Above that only progression left are champion passives.
  
  – Mario
  Jan 9 '17 at 21:07
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  OK, nice, thanks, please edit this last part into your answer so that the answer is complete without the comments.
  
  – Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen
  Jan 9 '17 at 21:11
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Yes, your items won't get any stronger once you hit Champion 160 (except from additional passive Champion points invested in passive abilities of course) and they scale below that level based on your own character level.

So a Champion 160 character with a Champion 150 weapon should indeed be weaker than a Champion 150 character with a Champion 150 weapon.

This scaling will stop with Champion 160 for obvious reasons since it's the maximum item level right now. So once you're using Champion 160 items, they'll no longer scale worse no matter your increasing champion level.

share|improve this answer

edited Jan 9 '17 at 23:19

answered Jan 9 '17 at 19:56

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answered Jan 9 '17 at 19:56

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answered Jan 9 '17 at 19:56

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Im cp 533, my stats went down from lvl 49 to hitting 50 which actually made me 533. Same gear only instead of lvl 46 it's cp 160 and still weaker across the board. Honestly it ruins the game for me as I like to see progression, makes zero since to me to get weaker as I gain exp. I mean if you go to the gym and get weaker despite exercising you'll stop going. If you get fatter by dieting and restricting yourself, you'll stop the diet. If I make less money at my job the longer I'm there, I'll find another job. This leveling is irritating. But when I hit 160 ur capped and it's equal, no it's not, like I said, same gear between lvl 46 and cp 533, the 533 gives me weaker stars across the board. Not huge difference, but like I said, if my boss came to me and said hey this year I'm paying you a dollar less, I'd quit.

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Im cp 533, my stats went down from lvl 49 to hitting 50 which actually made me 533. Same gear only instead of lvl 46 it's cp 160 and still weaker across the board. Honestly it ruins the game for me as I like to see progression, makes zero since to me to get weaker as I gain exp. I mean if you go to the gym and get weaker despite exercising you'll stop going. If you get fatter by dieting and restricting yourself, you'll stop the diet. If I make less money at my job the longer I'm there, I'll find another job. This leveling is irritating. But when I hit 160 ur capped and it's equal, no it's not, like I said, same gear between lvl 46 and cp 533, the 533 gives me weaker stars across the board. Not huge difference, but like I said, if my boss came to me and said hey this year I'm paying you a dollar less, I'd quit.

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Im cp 533, my stats went down from lvl 49 to hitting 50 which actually made me 533. Same gear only instead of lvl 46 it's cp 160 and still weaker across the board. Honestly it ruins the game for me as I like to see progression, makes zero since to me to get weaker as I gain exp. I mean if you go to the gym and get weaker despite exercising you'll stop going. If you get fatter by dieting and restricting yourself, you'll stop the diet. If I make less money at my job the longer I'm there, I'll find another job. This leveling is irritating. But when I hit 160 ur capped and it's equal, no it's not, like I said, same gear between lvl 46 and cp 533, the 533 gives me weaker stars across the board. Not huge difference, but like I said, if my boss came to me and said hey this year I'm paying you a dollar less, I'd quit.

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