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Incorporating research and background: How much is too much?
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The amount of research I'm doing for my novel is staggering. To the point where my spouse says I need to write a companion book (or a blog) just talking about the research! Sometimes I research for hours simply to include one line.
I live in terror of having my characters eat a food that didn't exist in that time and place! Okay, not really. But that is in fact the level of accuracy I'm going for.
Food is one example. I describe in detail the first meal my time travelers have when they arrive in ancient Egypt. The second meal I wrote more sparsely and my critique group jumped on me. They wanted more! This makes sense because the Exodus (yes, the Exodus) is starting in a few days and the contrast between the rich assortment of food they ate in Egypt vs the manna and quail they have in the desert is an important part of the story. Though my group wasn't thinking of that, they just liked my food descriptions.
I'm also researching clothing, housing, furniture, songs, linguistics, hair styles, ethnic groups, landscape, plants, makeup, musical instruments, dance styles, footwear, brickmaking, agricultural practices, domesticated animals, wild animals, weather, metalworking, joinery, midwifery, medicine, and so much Torah I say it's like having 20 bat mitzvahs (only that's a huge underestimate).
In addition to using beta readers (and some basic common sense), how do you balance the amount of research you're doing with how much ends up in the work? Some times it's easy, because the research makes subtle changes you incorporate, other times it's harder to figure out.
novel research middle-grade historical-fiction
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The amount of research I'm doing for my novel is staggering. To the point where my spouse says I need to write a companion book (or a blog) just talking about the research! Sometimes I research for hours simply to include one line.
I live in terror of having my characters eat a food that didn't exist in that time and place! Okay, not really. But that is in fact the level of accuracy I'm going for.
Food is one example. I describe in detail the first meal my time travelers have when they arrive in ancient Egypt. The second meal I wrote more sparsely and my critique group jumped on me. They wanted more! This makes sense because the Exodus (yes, the Exodus) is starting in a few days and the contrast between the rich assortment of food they ate in Egypt vs the manna and quail they have in the desert is an important part of the story. Though my group wasn't thinking of that, they just liked my food descriptions.
I'm also researching clothing, housing, furniture, songs, linguistics, hair styles, ethnic groups, landscape, plants, makeup, musical instruments, dance styles, footwear, brickmaking, agricultural practices, domesticated animals, wild animals, weather, metalworking, joinery, midwifery, medicine, and so much Torah I say it's like having 20 bat mitzvahs (only that's a huge underestimate).
In addition to using beta readers (and some basic common sense), how do you balance the amount of research you're doing with how much ends up in the work? Some times it's easy, because the research makes subtle changes you incorporate, other times it's harder to figure out.
novel research middle-grade historical-fiction
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Is there a way you can use the research to make a supplemental blog/podcast about the cool facts you're finding? This can help promote the finished book and add an element of "discoverability" that may interest publishers.
– April
2 hours ago
For what it may be worth, I am a non-fan of extensive food and meal descriptions. Pages upon pages of a buffet or the courses at a state dinner--yawn. I sometimes put the book down thinking "Ah. One of those authors." Other times I flip ahead to the next chapter and hope the 3-page long food description was a one-off.
– DPT
2 hours ago
@DPT Whereas I'm someone who will read books with lots of food detail even if the rest of the story stinks. Heck, I read cookbooks like novels. And authors like Michael Twitty? swoon
– Cyn
1 hour ago
@April while I'm sure my spouse is correct about it, it would be a lot more work to keep track of my notes and decisions in a way that can support a blog (I don't even listen to podcasts so can't imagine doing one). I've been using Mi Yodeya SE for this to a degree (I write questions to keep my research in one place then get additional input). But yeah I've got over 100 named characters and every one has a back story. For the ancient cast, I have a mix of "real" characters and made up ones and the research that goes into names and ages and relationships is insane.
– Cyn
1 hour ago
add a comment |
The amount of research I'm doing for my novel is staggering. To the point where my spouse says I need to write a companion book (or a blog) just talking about the research! Sometimes I research for hours simply to include one line.
I live in terror of having my characters eat a food that didn't exist in that time and place! Okay, not really. But that is in fact the level of accuracy I'm going for.
Food is one example. I describe in detail the first meal my time travelers have when they arrive in ancient Egypt. The second meal I wrote more sparsely and my critique group jumped on me. They wanted more! This makes sense because the Exodus (yes, the Exodus) is starting in a few days and the contrast between the rich assortment of food they ate in Egypt vs the manna and quail they have in the desert is an important part of the story. Though my group wasn't thinking of that, they just liked my food descriptions.
I'm also researching clothing, housing, furniture, songs, linguistics, hair styles, ethnic groups, landscape, plants, makeup, musical instruments, dance styles, footwear, brickmaking, agricultural practices, domesticated animals, wild animals, weather, metalworking, joinery, midwifery, medicine, and so much Torah I say it's like having 20 bat mitzvahs (only that's a huge underestimate).
In addition to using beta readers (and some basic common sense), how do you balance the amount of research you're doing with how much ends up in the work? Some times it's easy, because the research makes subtle changes you incorporate, other times it's harder to figure out.
novel research middle-grade historical-fiction
The amount of research I'm doing for my novel is staggering. To the point where my spouse says I need to write a companion book (or a blog) just talking about the research! Sometimes I research for hours simply to include one line.
I live in terror of having my characters eat a food that didn't exist in that time and place! Okay, not really. But that is in fact the level of accuracy I'm going for.
Food is one example. I describe in detail the first meal my time travelers have when they arrive in ancient Egypt. The second meal I wrote more sparsely and my critique group jumped on me. They wanted more! This makes sense because the Exodus (yes, the Exodus) is starting in a few days and the contrast between the rich assortment of food they ate in Egypt vs the manna and quail they have in the desert is an important part of the story. Though my group wasn't thinking of that, they just liked my food descriptions.
I'm also researching clothing, housing, furniture, songs, linguistics, hair styles, ethnic groups, landscape, plants, makeup, musical instruments, dance styles, footwear, brickmaking, agricultural practices, domesticated animals, wild animals, weather, metalworking, joinery, midwifery, medicine, and so much Torah I say it's like having 20 bat mitzvahs (only that's a huge underestimate).
In addition to using beta readers (and some basic common sense), how do you balance the amount of research you're doing with how much ends up in the work? Some times it's easy, because the research makes subtle changes you incorporate, other times it's harder to figure out.
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Is there a way you can use the research to make a supplemental blog/podcast about the cool facts you're finding? This can help promote the finished book and add an element of "discoverability" that may interest publishers.
– April
2 hours ago
For what it may be worth, I am a non-fan of extensive food and meal descriptions. Pages upon pages of a buffet or the courses at a state dinner--yawn. I sometimes put the book down thinking "Ah. One of those authors." Other times I flip ahead to the next chapter and hope the 3-page long food description was a one-off.
– DPT
2 hours ago
@DPT Whereas I'm someone who will read books with lots of food detail even if the rest of the story stinks. Heck, I read cookbooks like novels. And authors like Michael Twitty? swoon
– Cyn
1 hour ago
@April while I'm sure my spouse is correct about it, it would be a lot more work to keep track of my notes and decisions in a way that can support a blog (I don't even listen to podcasts so can't imagine doing one). I've been using Mi Yodeya SE for this to a degree (I write questions to keep my research in one place then get additional input). But yeah I've got over 100 named characters and every one has a back story. For the ancient cast, I have a mix of "real" characters and made up ones and the research that goes into names and ages and relationships is insane.
– Cyn
1 hour ago
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Is there a way you can use the research to make a supplemental blog/podcast about the cool facts you're finding? This can help promote the finished book and add an element of "discoverability" that may interest publishers.
– April
2 hours ago
For what it may be worth, I am a non-fan of extensive food and meal descriptions. Pages upon pages of a buffet or the courses at a state dinner--yawn. I sometimes put the book down thinking "Ah. One of those authors." Other times I flip ahead to the next chapter and hope the 3-page long food description was a one-off.
– DPT
2 hours ago
@DPT Whereas I'm someone who will read books with lots of food detail even if the rest of the story stinks. Heck, I read cookbooks like novels. And authors like Michael Twitty? swoon
– Cyn
1 hour ago
@April while I'm sure my spouse is correct about it, it would be a lot more work to keep track of my notes and decisions in a way that can support a blog (I don't even listen to podcasts so can't imagine doing one). I've been using Mi Yodeya SE for this to a degree (I write questions to keep my research in one place then get additional input). But yeah I've got over 100 named characters and every one has a back story. For the ancient cast, I have a mix of "real" characters and made up ones and the research that goes into names and ages and relationships is insane.
– Cyn
1 hour ago
1
1
Is there a way you can use the research to make a supplemental blog/podcast about the cool facts you're finding? This can help promote the finished book and add an element of "discoverability" that may interest publishers.
– April
2 hours ago
Is there a way you can use the research to make a supplemental blog/podcast about the cool facts you're finding? This can help promote the finished book and add an element of "discoverability" that may interest publishers.
– April
2 hours ago
For what it may be worth, I am a non-fan of extensive food and meal descriptions. Pages upon pages of a buffet or the courses at a state dinner--yawn. I sometimes put the book down thinking "Ah. One of those authors." Other times I flip ahead to the next chapter and hope the 3-page long food description was a one-off.
– DPT
2 hours ago
For what it may be worth, I am a non-fan of extensive food and meal descriptions. Pages upon pages of a buffet or the courses at a state dinner--yawn. I sometimes put the book down thinking "Ah. One of those authors." Other times I flip ahead to the next chapter and hope the 3-page long food description was a one-off.
– DPT
2 hours ago
@DPT Whereas I'm someone who will read books with lots of food detail even if the rest of the story stinks. Heck, I read cookbooks like novels. And authors like Michael Twitty? swoon
– Cyn
1 hour ago
@DPT Whereas I'm someone who will read books with lots of food detail even if the rest of the story stinks. Heck, I read cookbooks like novels. And authors like Michael Twitty? swoon
– Cyn
1 hour ago
@April while I'm sure my spouse is correct about it, it would be a lot more work to keep track of my notes and decisions in a way that can support a blog (I don't even listen to podcasts so can't imagine doing one). I've been using Mi Yodeya SE for this to a degree (I write questions to keep my research in one place then get additional input). But yeah I've got over 100 named characters and every one has a back story. For the ancient cast, I have a mix of "real" characters and made up ones and the research that goes into names and ages and relationships is insane.
– Cyn
1 hour ago
@April while I'm sure my spouse is correct about it, it would be a lot more work to keep track of my notes and decisions in a way that can support a blog (I don't even listen to podcasts so can't imagine doing one). I've been using Mi Yodeya SE for this to a degree (I write questions to keep my research in one place then get additional input). But yeah I've got over 100 named characters and every one has a back story. For the ancient cast, I have a mix of "real" characters and made up ones and the research that goes into names and ages and relationships is insane.
– Cyn
1 hour ago
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Include exactly as much detail as you need for the story to make sense. If the group complained about you changing your descriptions simply because they liked the rich description of the foods, they were doing you a disservice in terms of their critique. The reader should like the description of the rich foods in Egypt more than the description of foods eaten in the desert while fleeing. That's good writing.
I know it's vague and not immediately useful to say "use as much detail as you need", but that's really the best way to do it. Any time you're tempted to add in some historical research bits, consider the tone of the story and what you're trying to express, and whether or not those details add to the story, or simply distract.
In this case, having read some of your previous questions, it seems like conveying some historical information is important to your story, so I would certainly err on the side of more detail-- but never to the point that it fails to serve plot.
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+1. We aren't writing novels about what terrific researchers we are. We are writing novels for others to enjoy. In my mind, a 10:1 ratio of research:story 'feels' about right. In other words, learning ten times as much as goes in the book feels right to me, by instinct.
– DPT
2 hours ago
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+1 for "never to the point that it fails to serve plot". That, I believe, is the line that separates 'too much' from 'just right'.
– Sara Costa
2 hours ago
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I set "levels," and don't include technology beyond the level. Often I only research a word, in an online etymology dictionary, to see when it originated. e.g. "linen" comes from "linum" which is the Roman word for the flax plant, which provides the fibre for "line" (thread). Done, linen predates the time period of my story, thus is allowed, the production of line and fabric is a potential industry.
Basically, although I use modern English words to make it easy for my readers, I don't allow any words that have origins past my cut-off date. If they don't trace back to Old English, or pre-Cutoff, I don't use them, and certainly not any technology they involve.
As for the rest of the research I do, it is often cursory, I look up a few relevant things that prove a point and quit. I intentionally do not take any notes, if I can't remember it for fifteen minutes, it isn't worth remembering. For example, I am not truly interested in all the possible sword types that exist, I don't want to choose one from an array of hundreds, I want one sword that is not too heavy and suitable for a woman to carry. So I am not immersing myself in the history of swords, I am looking for ONE THING to describe, and I know it when I see it.
In fiction, my goal is only to present the sense of the time, I do not feel compelled to be historically accurate. If I give a woman sword X, I don't really care if there is a reader out there that is going to claim I should have given her sword Y. Because sword X is a real sword, I saw it. Maybe that is what her father used to teach her self-defense, and that is her sword of preference. Would a father teach his daughter self-defense? I think it is a pretty radical claim that not ONE father of the time would ever do that! To me it is plausible HER father did that, and -- as always in my fiction -- it is okay to follow exceptional people that do not fit the standard mold, no matter what time period I am writing in.
I research only what I feel is necessary for the page or scene or character. I research with that in mind, and I stop the minute I am convinced I found it. I want to be accurate, but I don't want to write a history lesson or explain why I am accurate. I feel like that kind of exposition stalls the story.
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Include exactly as much detail as you need for the story to make sense. If the group complained about you changing your descriptions simply because they liked the rich description of the foods, they were doing you a disservice in terms of their critique. The reader should like the description of the rich foods in Egypt more than the description of foods eaten in the desert while fleeing. That's good writing.
I know it's vague and not immediately useful to say "use as much detail as you need", but that's really the best way to do it. Any time you're tempted to add in some historical research bits, consider the tone of the story and what you're trying to express, and whether or not those details add to the story, or simply distract.
In this case, having read some of your previous questions, it seems like conveying some historical information is important to your story, so I would certainly err on the side of more detail-- but never to the point that it fails to serve plot.
2
+1. We aren't writing novels about what terrific researchers we are. We are writing novels for others to enjoy. In my mind, a 10:1 ratio of research:story 'feels' about right. In other words, learning ten times as much as goes in the book feels right to me, by instinct.
– DPT
2 hours ago
1
+1 for "never to the point that it fails to serve plot". That, I believe, is the line that separates 'too much' from 'just right'.
– Sara Costa
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Include exactly as much detail as you need for the story to make sense. If the group complained about you changing your descriptions simply because they liked the rich description of the foods, they were doing you a disservice in terms of their critique. The reader should like the description of the rich foods in Egypt more than the description of foods eaten in the desert while fleeing. That's good writing.
I know it's vague and not immediately useful to say "use as much detail as you need", but that's really the best way to do it. Any time you're tempted to add in some historical research bits, consider the tone of the story and what you're trying to express, and whether or not those details add to the story, or simply distract.
In this case, having read some of your previous questions, it seems like conveying some historical information is important to your story, so I would certainly err on the side of more detail-- but never to the point that it fails to serve plot.
2
+1. We aren't writing novels about what terrific researchers we are. We are writing novels for others to enjoy. In my mind, a 10:1 ratio of research:story 'feels' about right. In other words, learning ten times as much as goes in the book feels right to me, by instinct.
– DPT
2 hours ago
1
+1 for "never to the point that it fails to serve plot". That, I believe, is the line that separates 'too much' from 'just right'.
– Sara Costa
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Include exactly as much detail as you need for the story to make sense. If the group complained about you changing your descriptions simply because they liked the rich description of the foods, they were doing you a disservice in terms of their critique. The reader should like the description of the rich foods in Egypt more than the description of foods eaten in the desert while fleeing. That's good writing.
I know it's vague and not immediately useful to say "use as much detail as you need", but that's really the best way to do it. Any time you're tempted to add in some historical research bits, consider the tone of the story and what you're trying to express, and whether or not those details add to the story, or simply distract.
In this case, having read some of your previous questions, it seems like conveying some historical information is important to your story, so I would certainly err on the side of more detail-- but never to the point that it fails to serve plot.
Include exactly as much detail as you need for the story to make sense. If the group complained about you changing your descriptions simply because they liked the rich description of the foods, they were doing you a disservice in terms of their critique. The reader should like the description of the rich foods in Egypt more than the description of foods eaten in the desert while fleeing. That's good writing.
I know it's vague and not immediately useful to say "use as much detail as you need", but that's really the best way to do it. Any time you're tempted to add in some historical research bits, consider the tone of the story and what you're trying to express, and whether or not those details add to the story, or simply distract.
In this case, having read some of your previous questions, it seems like conveying some historical information is important to your story, so I would certainly err on the side of more detail-- but never to the point that it fails to serve plot.
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+1. We aren't writing novels about what terrific researchers we are. We are writing novels for others to enjoy. In my mind, a 10:1 ratio of research:story 'feels' about right. In other words, learning ten times as much as goes in the book feels right to me, by instinct.
– DPT
2 hours ago
1
+1 for "never to the point that it fails to serve plot". That, I believe, is the line that separates 'too much' from 'just right'.
– Sara Costa
2 hours ago
add a comment |
2
+1. We aren't writing novels about what terrific researchers we are. We are writing novels for others to enjoy. In my mind, a 10:1 ratio of research:story 'feels' about right. In other words, learning ten times as much as goes in the book feels right to me, by instinct.
– DPT
2 hours ago
1
+1 for "never to the point that it fails to serve plot". That, I believe, is the line that separates 'too much' from 'just right'.
– Sara Costa
2 hours ago
2
2
+1. We aren't writing novels about what terrific researchers we are. We are writing novels for others to enjoy. In my mind, a 10:1 ratio of research:story 'feels' about right. In other words, learning ten times as much as goes in the book feels right to me, by instinct.
– DPT
2 hours ago
+1. We aren't writing novels about what terrific researchers we are. We are writing novels for others to enjoy. In my mind, a 10:1 ratio of research:story 'feels' about right. In other words, learning ten times as much as goes in the book feels right to me, by instinct.
– DPT
2 hours ago
1
1
+1 for "never to the point that it fails to serve plot". That, I believe, is the line that separates 'too much' from 'just right'.
– Sara Costa
2 hours ago
+1 for "never to the point that it fails to serve plot". That, I believe, is the line that separates 'too much' from 'just right'.
– Sara Costa
2 hours ago
add a comment |
I set "levels," and don't include technology beyond the level. Often I only research a word, in an online etymology dictionary, to see when it originated. e.g. "linen" comes from "linum" which is the Roman word for the flax plant, which provides the fibre for "line" (thread). Done, linen predates the time period of my story, thus is allowed, the production of line and fabric is a potential industry.
Basically, although I use modern English words to make it easy for my readers, I don't allow any words that have origins past my cut-off date. If they don't trace back to Old English, or pre-Cutoff, I don't use them, and certainly not any technology they involve.
As for the rest of the research I do, it is often cursory, I look up a few relevant things that prove a point and quit. I intentionally do not take any notes, if I can't remember it for fifteen minutes, it isn't worth remembering. For example, I am not truly interested in all the possible sword types that exist, I don't want to choose one from an array of hundreds, I want one sword that is not too heavy and suitable for a woman to carry. So I am not immersing myself in the history of swords, I am looking for ONE THING to describe, and I know it when I see it.
In fiction, my goal is only to present the sense of the time, I do not feel compelled to be historically accurate. If I give a woman sword X, I don't really care if there is a reader out there that is going to claim I should have given her sword Y. Because sword X is a real sword, I saw it. Maybe that is what her father used to teach her self-defense, and that is her sword of preference. Would a father teach his daughter self-defense? I think it is a pretty radical claim that not ONE father of the time would ever do that! To me it is plausible HER father did that, and -- as always in my fiction -- it is okay to follow exceptional people that do not fit the standard mold, no matter what time period I am writing in.
I research only what I feel is necessary for the page or scene or character. I research with that in mind, and I stop the minute I am convinced I found it. I want to be accurate, but I don't want to write a history lesson or explain why I am accurate. I feel like that kind of exposition stalls the story.
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I set "levels," and don't include technology beyond the level. Often I only research a word, in an online etymology dictionary, to see when it originated. e.g. "linen" comes from "linum" which is the Roman word for the flax plant, which provides the fibre for "line" (thread). Done, linen predates the time period of my story, thus is allowed, the production of line and fabric is a potential industry.
Basically, although I use modern English words to make it easy for my readers, I don't allow any words that have origins past my cut-off date. If they don't trace back to Old English, or pre-Cutoff, I don't use them, and certainly not any technology they involve.
As for the rest of the research I do, it is often cursory, I look up a few relevant things that prove a point and quit. I intentionally do not take any notes, if I can't remember it for fifteen minutes, it isn't worth remembering. For example, I am not truly interested in all the possible sword types that exist, I don't want to choose one from an array of hundreds, I want one sword that is not too heavy and suitable for a woman to carry. So I am not immersing myself in the history of swords, I am looking for ONE THING to describe, and I know it when I see it.
In fiction, my goal is only to present the sense of the time, I do not feel compelled to be historically accurate. If I give a woman sword X, I don't really care if there is a reader out there that is going to claim I should have given her sword Y. Because sword X is a real sword, I saw it. Maybe that is what her father used to teach her self-defense, and that is her sword of preference. Would a father teach his daughter self-defense? I think it is a pretty radical claim that not ONE father of the time would ever do that! To me it is plausible HER father did that, and -- as always in my fiction -- it is okay to follow exceptional people that do not fit the standard mold, no matter what time period I am writing in.
I research only what I feel is necessary for the page or scene or character. I research with that in mind, and I stop the minute I am convinced I found it. I want to be accurate, but I don't want to write a history lesson or explain why I am accurate. I feel like that kind of exposition stalls the story.
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I set "levels," and don't include technology beyond the level. Often I only research a word, in an online etymology dictionary, to see when it originated. e.g. "linen" comes from "linum" which is the Roman word for the flax plant, which provides the fibre for "line" (thread). Done, linen predates the time period of my story, thus is allowed, the production of line and fabric is a potential industry.
Basically, although I use modern English words to make it easy for my readers, I don't allow any words that have origins past my cut-off date. If they don't trace back to Old English, or pre-Cutoff, I don't use them, and certainly not any technology they involve.
As for the rest of the research I do, it is often cursory, I look up a few relevant things that prove a point and quit. I intentionally do not take any notes, if I can't remember it for fifteen minutes, it isn't worth remembering. For example, I am not truly interested in all the possible sword types that exist, I don't want to choose one from an array of hundreds, I want one sword that is not too heavy and suitable for a woman to carry. So I am not immersing myself in the history of swords, I am looking for ONE THING to describe, and I know it when I see it.
In fiction, my goal is only to present the sense of the time, I do not feel compelled to be historically accurate. If I give a woman sword X, I don't really care if there is a reader out there that is going to claim I should have given her sword Y. Because sword X is a real sword, I saw it. Maybe that is what her father used to teach her self-defense, and that is her sword of preference. Would a father teach his daughter self-defense? I think it is a pretty radical claim that not ONE father of the time would ever do that! To me it is plausible HER father did that, and -- as always in my fiction -- it is okay to follow exceptional people that do not fit the standard mold, no matter what time period I am writing in.
I research only what I feel is necessary for the page or scene or character. I research with that in mind, and I stop the minute I am convinced I found it. I want to be accurate, but I don't want to write a history lesson or explain why I am accurate. I feel like that kind of exposition stalls the story.
I set "levels," and don't include technology beyond the level. Often I only research a word, in an online etymology dictionary, to see when it originated. e.g. "linen" comes from "linum" which is the Roman word for the flax plant, which provides the fibre for "line" (thread). Done, linen predates the time period of my story, thus is allowed, the production of line and fabric is a potential industry.
Basically, although I use modern English words to make it easy for my readers, I don't allow any words that have origins past my cut-off date. If they don't trace back to Old English, or pre-Cutoff, I don't use them, and certainly not any technology they involve.
As for the rest of the research I do, it is often cursory, I look up a few relevant things that prove a point and quit. I intentionally do not take any notes, if I can't remember it for fifteen minutes, it isn't worth remembering. For example, I am not truly interested in all the possible sword types that exist, I don't want to choose one from an array of hundreds, I want one sword that is not too heavy and suitable for a woman to carry. So I am not immersing myself in the history of swords, I am looking for ONE THING to describe, and I know it when I see it.
In fiction, my goal is only to present the sense of the time, I do not feel compelled to be historically accurate. If I give a woman sword X, I don't really care if there is a reader out there that is going to claim I should have given her sword Y. Because sword X is a real sword, I saw it. Maybe that is what her father used to teach her self-defense, and that is her sword of preference. Would a father teach his daughter self-defense? I think it is a pretty radical claim that not ONE father of the time would ever do that! To me it is plausible HER father did that, and -- as always in my fiction -- it is okay to follow exceptional people that do not fit the standard mold, no matter what time period I am writing in.
I research only what I feel is necessary for the page or scene or character. I research with that in mind, and I stop the minute I am convinced I found it. I want to be accurate, but I don't want to write a history lesson or explain why I am accurate. I feel like that kind of exposition stalls the story.
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Is there a way you can use the research to make a supplemental blog/podcast about the cool facts you're finding? This can help promote the finished book and add an element of "discoverability" that may interest publishers.
– April
2 hours ago
For what it may be worth, I am a non-fan of extensive food and meal descriptions. Pages upon pages of a buffet or the courses at a state dinner--yawn. I sometimes put the book down thinking "Ah. One of those authors." Other times I flip ahead to the next chapter and hope the 3-page long food description was a one-off.
– DPT
2 hours ago
@DPT Whereas I'm someone who will read books with lots of food detail even if the rest of the story stinks. Heck, I read cookbooks like novels. And authors like Michael Twitty? swoon
– Cyn
1 hour ago
@April while I'm sure my spouse is correct about it, it would be a lot more work to keep track of my notes and decisions in a way that can support a blog (I don't even listen to podcasts so can't imagine doing one). I've been using Mi Yodeya SE for this to a degree (I write questions to keep my research in one place then get additional input). But yeah I've got over 100 named characters and every one has a back story. For the ancient cast, I have a mix of "real" characters and made up ones and the research that goes into names and ages and relationships is insane.
– Cyn
1 hour ago