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General past possibility with 'could'
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I am a bit confused, as I know I should not use "could"+verb in the sense of a possibility in the past, such as "He could go there yesterday but he did not". I am well aware I should use past modals here.
One book, however, mentions that could can be used also for "general past possibility", which quite confuses me. I know I can use it for abilities, with senses or mental processes (He thought he could.). What does this general past probability mean? What would be an example of that?
To make it clear, I am not asking about usage of past modals. I am aware of that. I am specifically asking about "could" in situations when it refers to "general possibility in the past".
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I am a bit confused, as I know I should not use "could"+verb in the sense of a possibility in the past, such as "He could go there yesterday but he did not". I am well aware I should use past modals here.
One book, however, mentions that could can be used also for "general past possibility", which quite confuses me. I know I can use it for abilities, with senses or mental processes (He thought he could.). What does this general past probability mean? What would be an example of that?
To make it clear, I am not asking about usage of past modals. I am aware of that. I am specifically asking about "could" in situations when it refers to "general possibility in the past".
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I am a bit confused, as I know I should not use "could"+verb in the sense of a possibility in the past, such as "He could go there yesterday but he did not". I am well aware I should use past modals here.
One book, however, mentions that could can be used also for "general past possibility", which quite confuses me. I know I can use it for abilities, with senses or mental processes (He thought he could.). What does this general past probability mean? What would be an example of that?
To make it clear, I am not asking about usage of past modals. I am aware of that. I am specifically asking about "could" in situations when it refers to "general possibility in the past".
grammar past-tense modal-verbs
I am a bit confused, as I know I should not use "could"+verb in the sense of a possibility in the past, such as "He could go there yesterday but he did not". I am well aware I should use past modals here.
One book, however, mentions that could can be used also for "general past possibility", which quite confuses me. I know I can use it for abilities, with senses or mental processes (He thought he could.). What does this general past probability mean? What would be an example of that?
To make it clear, I am not asking about usage of past modals. I am aware of that. I am specifically asking about "could" in situations when it refers to "general possibility in the past".
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An example of "general past possibility" would be:
"In Roman Britain, you could get from what's now Canterbury to what's now St Albans by travelling Watling Street."
As opposed to specific past possibility:
"I could have bought it for half the price yesterday!"
It is common usage, even if incorrect according to some grammars, to use the same syntax as the general possibility for a specific one:
"Yesterday I could buy it for half the price!"
We're actually seeing different senses of could here. In the present (or future) tense, could indicates a sort of hypothetical, where other languages might use a subjunctive form, perhaps. It is used to make suggestions or raise possibilities.
"What shall we do today?"
"We could take the train up to the lakes and do some walking."
It doesn't communicate a strong desire, though tone may indicate some desire. It can also indicate a possibility that one might need to think about.
"Where is she? She said to meet in the library at 3pm!"
"She could be at the other entrance."
Now, when we want to put a hypothetical in the past, we apply that same sense of could to the present perfect:
"Why am I slogging through all this coursework? I could have taken a gap year and be sunning myself on a beach in Thailand."
Used that way, it is expressing a hypothetical about things having been different. It is known not to have happened, but it could have happened.
"Where is he? He said to meet in the library at 3pm!"
"He could have gotten sidetracked. You know what he's like."
That is an unknown hypothetical in the past. You don't know whether it happened or not.
But when we use could in sentence like "in Victorian England, people could die of diseases that we can easily treat today", it's not the same sense of could as above. Let's talk about can.
Can is a modal verb that indicates possibility, rather than a hypothetical. It means be able to, and sometimes you have to resort to be able to because can doesn't exist or work in all tenses. So,
"I can touch my toes!"
But
"I will be able to pay for next week."
But what if you can't touch your toes now, but you were able to in the past? Well, then it becomes:
"I could touch my toes last week..."
Here, could is a past form of can. It means, roughly, "was able to". It says nothing about whether you did or not, merely that had that ability.
The two senses of could are closely linked, no doubt. It probably tells someone more educated in philology than I a great deal about how our language developed from its forebears. But now these two sense are quite distinct - if potentially confusing.
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– ColleenV♦
21 mins ago
But, when I think about it, I could be also correct, right? I lost all my money today - yesteday I could buy a house and today I cannot buy a beer. :)
– John V
21 mins ago
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You have been taught incorrectly - you can use "could" when speaking about a past possibility, you just need to know how to use it correctly.
It is correct to say:
He could have gone there yesterday, but he did not.
The problem with your version "he could go there yesterday..." is not the use of "could", but the tense of your verb to go. If you are speaking about the past even as a possibility then the verb should be in the past tense.
You can however use a present tense verb when speaking about a past possibility if you use another verb to place the statement in the past, for example:
He wanted to go there yesterday, but he could not.
Because the verb "wanted" is in the past tense it is correct to use "go" because that is what he wanted at the time.
There are many modal verbs that can be used to indicate past possibility (can, could, may, might, must, shall, should, will), all of which mean slightly different things and can suggest varying degrees of possibility etc. The textbook you quote seems to be saying that for "general" use (ie the default term when you aren't putting too much thought into how probable something was), you should use "could". That seems a reasonable generalisation - it does not suggest any doubt like "might have" and is probably among the most commonly used.
By "could" I mean "could"+verb which should not be used for single actions in the past, as explained by Cambridge grammar, for example. Past modal (could have) is the option I would use for the past. But the question is what is meant by the "general possibility in the past" where just "COULD" (not past modal COULD HAVE) is said to be possible.
– John V
5 hours ago
@JohnV Can you reference this "general possibility"? I don't think it is a proper term. There are a number of modal verbs that indicate varying degrees of probability/possibility. I have used "could" because that is the one you asked about.
– Astralbee
5 hours ago
Unfortunately, it is a printed book (Gethin, Grammar in Context, 11A), stating that COULD can be used for "general past possibility". Maybe it is somehow related to "past ability", for which COULD can be used? As in "He could swim when he was young" etc.
– John V
5 hours ago
@JohnV Okay, I think I understand. "General past possibility" is not a term. As I stated, you have a choice of modal verbs (can, could, may, might, must, shall, should, will) which all mean slightly different things, degrees of possibility etc. Your textbook is saying that for "general" use (ie the default term when you aren't putting too much thought into how probable something was), is "could".
– Astralbee
4 hours ago
But isnt it rather wrong? Mostly, could just does not work, like in my example. I think it works for past abilities or permissions, but for past events usually modals are needed.
– John V
4 hours ago
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An example of "general past possibility" would be:
"In Roman Britain, you could get from what's now Canterbury to what's now St Albans by travelling Watling Street."
As opposed to specific past possibility:
"I could have bought it for half the price yesterday!"
It is common usage, even if incorrect according to some grammars, to use the same syntax as the general possibility for a specific one:
"Yesterday I could buy it for half the price!"
We're actually seeing different senses of could here. In the present (or future) tense, could indicates a sort of hypothetical, where other languages might use a subjunctive form, perhaps. It is used to make suggestions or raise possibilities.
"What shall we do today?"
"We could take the train up to the lakes and do some walking."
It doesn't communicate a strong desire, though tone may indicate some desire. It can also indicate a possibility that one might need to think about.
"Where is she? She said to meet in the library at 3pm!"
"She could be at the other entrance."
Now, when we want to put a hypothetical in the past, we apply that same sense of could to the present perfect:
"Why am I slogging through all this coursework? I could have taken a gap year and be sunning myself on a beach in Thailand."
Used that way, it is expressing a hypothetical about things having been different. It is known not to have happened, but it could have happened.
"Where is he? He said to meet in the library at 3pm!"
"He could have gotten sidetracked. You know what he's like."
That is an unknown hypothetical in the past. You don't know whether it happened or not.
But when we use could in sentence like "in Victorian England, people could die of diseases that we can easily treat today", it's not the same sense of could as above. Let's talk about can.
Can is a modal verb that indicates possibility, rather than a hypothetical. It means be able to, and sometimes you have to resort to be able to because can doesn't exist or work in all tenses. So,
"I can touch my toes!"
But
"I will be able to pay for next week."
But what if you can't touch your toes now, but you were able to in the past? Well, then it becomes:
"I could touch my toes last week..."
Here, could is a past form of can. It means, roughly, "was able to". It says nothing about whether you did or not, merely that had that ability.
The two senses of could are closely linked, no doubt. It probably tells someone more educated in philology than I a great deal about how our language developed from its forebears. But now these two sense are quite distinct - if potentially confusing.
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– ColleenV♦
21 mins ago
But, when I think about it, I could be also correct, right? I lost all my money today - yesteday I could buy a house and today I cannot buy a beer. :)
– John V
21 mins ago
add a comment |
An example of "general past possibility" would be:
"In Roman Britain, you could get from what's now Canterbury to what's now St Albans by travelling Watling Street."
As opposed to specific past possibility:
"I could have bought it for half the price yesterday!"
It is common usage, even if incorrect according to some grammars, to use the same syntax as the general possibility for a specific one:
"Yesterday I could buy it for half the price!"
We're actually seeing different senses of could here. In the present (or future) tense, could indicates a sort of hypothetical, where other languages might use a subjunctive form, perhaps. It is used to make suggestions or raise possibilities.
"What shall we do today?"
"We could take the train up to the lakes and do some walking."
It doesn't communicate a strong desire, though tone may indicate some desire. It can also indicate a possibility that one might need to think about.
"Where is she? She said to meet in the library at 3pm!"
"She could be at the other entrance."
Now, when we want to put a hypothetical in the past, we apply that same sense of could to the present perfect:
"Why am I slogging through all this coursework? I could have taken a gap year and be sunning myself on a beach in Thailand."
Used that way, it is expressing a hypothetical about things having been different. It is known not to have happened, but it could have happened.
"Where is he? He said to meet in the library at 3pm!"
"He could have gotten sidetracked. You know what he's like."
That is an unknown hypothetical in the past. You don't know whether it happened or not.
But when we use could in sentence like "in Victorian England, people could die of diseases that we can easily treat today", it's not the same sense of could as above. Let's talk about can.
Can is a modal verb that indicates possibility, rather than a hypothetical. It means be able to, and sometimes you have to resort to be able to because can doesn't exist or work in all tenses. So,
"I can touch my toes!"
But
"I will be able to pay for next week."
But what if you can't touch your toes now, but you were able to in the past? Well, then it becomes:
"I could touch my toes last week..."
Here, could is a past form of can. It means, roughly, "was able to". It says nothing about whether you did or not, merely that had that ability.
The two senses of could are closely linked, no doubt. It probably tells someone more educated in philology than I a great deal about how our language developed from its forebears. But now these two sense are quite distinct - if potentially confusing.
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– ColleenV♦
21 mins ago
But, when I think about it, I could be also correct, right? I lost all my money today - yesteday I could buy a house and today I cannot buy a beer. :)
– John V
21 mins ago
add a comment |
An example of "general past possibility" would be:
"In Roman Britain, you could get from what's now Canterbury to what's now St Albans by travelling Watling Street."
As opposed to specific past possibility:
"I could have bought it for half the price yesterday!"
It is common usage, even if incorrect according to some grammars, to use the same syntax as the general possibility for a specific one:
"Yesterday I could buy it for half the price!"
We're actually seeing different senses of could here. In the present (or future) tense, could indicates a sort of hypothetical, where other languages might use a subjunctive form, perhaps. It is used to make suggestions or raise possibilities.
"What shall we do today?"
"We could take the train up to the lakes and do some walking."
It doesn't communicate a strong desire, though tone may indicate some desire. It can also indicate a possibility that one might need to think about.
"Where is she? She said to meet in the library at 3pm!"
"She could be at the other entrance."
Now, when we want to put a hypothetical in the past, we apply that same sense of could to the present perfect:
"Why am I slogging through all this coursework? I could have taken a gap year and be sunning myself on a beach in Thailand."
Used that way, it is expressing a hypothetical about things having been different. It is known not to have happened, but it could have happened.
"Where is he? He said to meet in the library at 3pm!"
"He could have gotten sidetracked. You know what he's like."
That is an unknown hypothetical in the past. You don't know whether it happened or not.
But when we use could in sentence like "in Victorian England, people could die of diseases that we can easily treat today", it's not the same sense of could as above. Let's talk about can.
Can is a modal verb that indicates possibility, rather than a hypothetical. It means be able to, and sometimes you have to resort to be able to because can doesn't exist or work in all tenses. So,
"I can touch my toes!"
But
"I will be able to pay for next week."
But what if you can't touch your toes now, but you were able to in the past? Well, then it becomes:
"I could touch my toes last week..."
Here, could is a past form of can. It means, roughly, "was able to". It says nothing about whether you did or not, merely that had that ability.
The two senses of could are closely linked, no doubt. It probably tells someone more educated in philology than I a great deal about how our language developed from its forebears. But now these two sense are quite distinct - if potentially confusing.
An example of "general past possibility" would be:
"In Roman Britain, you could get from what's now Canterbury to what's now St Albans by travelling Watling Street."
As opposed to specific past possibility:
"I could have bought it for half the price yesterday!"
It is common usage, even if incorrect according to some grammars, to use the same syntax as the general possibility for a specific one:
"Yesterday I could buy it for half the price!"
We're actually seeing different senses of could here. In the present (or future) tense, could indicates a sort of hypothetical, where other languages might use a subjunctive form, perhaps. It is used to make suggestions or raise possibilities.
"What shall we do today?"
"We could take the train up to the lakes and do some walking."
It doesn't communicate a strong desire, though tone may indicate some desire. It can also indicate a possibility that one might need to think about.
"Where is she? She said to meet in the library at 3pm!"
"She could be at the other entrance."
Now, when we want to put a hypothetical in the past, we apply that same sense of could to the present perfect:
"Why am I slogging through all this coursework? I could have taken a gap year and be sunning myself on a beach in Thailand."
Used that way, it is expressing a hypothetical about things having been different. It is known not to have happened, but it could have happened.
"Where is he? He said to meet in the library at 3pm!"
"He could have gotten sidetracked. You know what he's like."
That is an unknown hypothetical in the past. You don't know whether it happened or not.
But when we use could in sentence like "in Victorian England, people could die of diseases that we can easily treat today", it's not the same sense of could as above. Let's talk about can.
Can is a modal verb that indicates possibility, rather than a hypothetical. It means be able to, and sometimes you have to resort to be able to because can doesn't exist or work in all tenses. So,
"I can touch my toes!"
But
"I will be able to pay for next week."
But what if you can't touch your toes now, but you were able to in the past? Well, then it becomes:
"I could touch my toes last week..."
Here, could is a past form of can. It means, roughly, "was able to". It says nothing about whether you did or not, merely that had that ability.
The two senses of could are closely linked, no doubt. It probably tells someone more educated in philology than I a great deal about how our language developed from its forebears. But now these two sense are quite distinct - if potentially confusing.
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– ColleenV♦
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But, when I think about it, I could be also correct, right? I lost all my money today - yesteday I could buy a house and today I cannot buy a beer. :)
– John V
21 mins ago
add a comment |
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– ColleenV♦
21 mins ago
But, when I think about it, I could be also correct, right? I lost all my money today - yesteday I could buy a house and today I cannot buy a beer. :)
– John V
21 mins ago
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– ColleenV♦
21 mins ago
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– ColleenV♦
21 mins ago
But, when I think about it, I could be also correct, right? I lost all my money today - yesteday I could buy a house and today I cannot buy a beer. :)
– John V
21 mins ago
But, when I think about it, I could be also correct, right? I lost all my money today - yesteday I could buy a house and today I cannot buy a beer. :)
– John V
21 mins ago
add a comment |
You have been taught incorrectly - you can use "could" when speaking about a past possibility, you just need to know how to use it correctly.
It is correct to say:
He could have gone there yesterday, but he did not.
The problem with your version "he could go there yesterday..." is not the use of "could", but the tense of your verb to go. If you are speaking about the past even as a possibility then the verb should be in the past tense.
You can however use a present tense verb when speaking about a past possibility if you use another verb to place the statement in the past, for example:
He wanted to go there yesterday, but he could not.
Because the verb "wanted" is in the past tense it is correct to use "go" because that is what he wanted at the time.
There are many modal verbs that can be used to indicate past possibility (can, could, may, might, must, shall, should, will), all of which mean slightly different things and can suggest varying degrees of possibility etc. The textbook you quote seems to be saying that for "general" use (ie the default term when you aren't putting too much thought into how probable something was), you should use "could". That seems a reasonable generalisation - it does not suggest any doubt like "might have" and is probably among the most commonly used.
By "could" I mean "could"+verb which should not be used for single actions in the past, as explained by Cambridge grammar, for example. Past modal (could have) is the option I would use for the past. But the question is what is meant by the "general possibility in the past" where just "COULD" (not past modal COULD HAVE) is said to be possible.
– John V
5 hours ago
@JohnV Can you reference this "general possibility"? I don't think it is a proper term. There are a number of modal verbs that indicate varying degrees of probability/possibility. I have used "could" because that is the one you asked about.
– Astralbee
5 hours ago
Unfortunately, it is a printed book (Gethin, Grammar in Context, 11A), stating that COULD can be used for "general past possibility". Maybe it is somehow related to "past ability", for which COULD can be used? As in "He could swim when he was young" etc.
– John V
5 hours ago
@JohnV Okay, I think I understand. "General past possibility" is not a term. As I stated, you have a choice of modal verbs (can, could, may, might, must, shall, should, will) which all mean slightly different things, degrees of possibility etc. Your textbook is saying that for "general" use (ie the default term when you aren't putting too much thought into how probable something was), is "could".
– Astralbee
4 hours ago
But isnt it rather wrong? Mostly, could just does not work, like in my example. I think it works for past abilities or permissions, but for past events usually modals are needed.
– John V
4 hours ago
|
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You have been taught incorrectly - you can use "could" when speaking about a past possibility, you just need to know how to use it correctly.
It is correct to say:
He could have gone there yesterday, but he did not.
The problem with your version "he could go there yesterday..." is not the use of "could", but the tense of your verb to go. If you are speaking about the past even as a possibility then the verb should be in the past tense.
You can however use a present tense verb when speaking about a past possibility if you use another verb to place the statement in the past, for example:
He wanted to go there yesterday, but he could not.
Because the verb "wanted" is in the past tense it is correct to use "go" because that is what he wanted at the time.
There are many modal verbs that can be used to indicate past possibility (can, could, may, might, must, shall, should, will), all of which mean slightly different things and can suggest varying degrees of possibility etc. The textbook you quote seems to be saying that for "general" use (ie the default term when you aren't putting too much thought into how probable something was), you should use "could". That seems a reasonable generalisation - it does not suggest any doubt like "might have" and is probably among the most commonly used.
By "could" I mean "could"+verb which should not be used for single actions in the past, as explained by Cambridge grammar, for example. Past modal (could have) is the option I would use for the past. But the question is what is meant by the "general possibility in the past" where just "COULD" (not past modal COULD HAVE) is said to be possible.
– John V
5 hours ago
@JohnV Can you reference this "general possibility"? I don't think it is a proper term. There are a number of modal verbs that indicate varying degrees of probability/possibility. I have used "could" because that is the one you asked about.
– Astralbee
5 hours ago
Unfortunately, it is a printed book (Gethin, Grammar in Context, 11A), stating that COULD can be used for "general past possibility". Maybe it is somehow related to "past ability", for which COULD can be used? As in "He could swim when he was young" etc.
– John V
5 hours ago
@JohnV Okay, I think I understand. "General past possibility" is not a term. As I stated, you have a choice of modal verbs (can, could, may, might, must, shall, should, will) which all mean slightly different things, degrees of possibility etc. Your textbook is saying that for "general" use (ie the default term when you aren't putting too much thought into how probable something was), is "could".
– Astralbee
4 hours ago
But isnt it rather wrong? Mostly, could just does not work, like in my example. I think it works for past abilities or permissions, but for past events usually modals are needed.
– John V
4 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
You have been taught incorrectly - you can use "could" when speaking about a past possibility, you just need to know how to use it correctly.
It is correct to say:
He could have gone there yesterday, but he did not.
The problem with your version "he could go there yesterday..." is not the use of "could", but the tense of your verb to go. If you are speaking about the past even as a possibility then the verb should be in the past tense.
You can however use a present tense verb when speaking about a past possibility if you use another verb to place the statement in the past, for example:
He wanted to go there yesterday, but he could not.
Because the verb "wanted" is in the past tense it is correct to use "go" because that is what he wanted at the time.
There are many modal verbs that can be used to indicate past possibility (can, could, may, might, must, shall, should, will), all of which mean slightly different things and can suggest varying degrees of possibility etc. The textbook you quote seems to be saying that for "general" use (ie the default term when you aren't putting too much thought into how probable something was), you should use "could". That seems a reasonable generalisation - it does not suggest any doubt like "might have" and is probably among the most commonly used.
You have been taught incorrectly - you can use "could" when speaking about a past possibility, you just need to know how to use it correctly.
It is correct to say:
He could have gone there yesterday, but he did not.
The problem with your version "he could go there yesterday..." is not the use of "could", but the tense of your verb to go. If you are speaking about the past even as a possibility then the verb should be in the past tense.
You can however use a present tense verb when speaking about a past possibility if you use another verb to place the statement in the past, for example:
He wanted to go there yesterday, but he could not.
Because the verb "wanted" is in the past tense it is correct to use "go" because that is what he wanted at the time.
There are many modal verbs that can be used to indicate past possibility (can, could, may, might, must, shall, should, will), all of which mean slightly different things and can suggest varying degrees of possibility etc. The textbook you quote seems to be saying that for "general" use (ie the default term when you aren't putting too much thought into how probable something was), you should use "could". That seems a reasonable generalisation - it does not suggest any doubt like "might have" and is probably among the most commonly used.
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By "could" I mean "could"+verb which should not be used for single actions in the past, as explained by Cambridge grammar, for example. Past modal (could have) is the option I would use for the past. But the question is what is meant by the "general possibility in the past" where just "COULD" (not past modal COULD HAVE) is said to be possible.
– John V
5 hours ago
@JohnV Can you reference this "general possibility"? I don't think it is a proper term. There are a number of modal verbs that indicate varying degrees of probability/possibility. I have used "could" because that is the one you asked about.
– Astralbee
5 hours ago
Unfortunately, it is a printed book (Gethin, Grammar in Context, 11A), stating that COULD can be used for "general past possibility". Maybe it is somehow related to "past ability", for which COULD can be used? As in "He could swim when he was young" etc.
– John V
5 hours ago
@JohnV Okay, I think I understand. "General past possibility" is not a term. As I stated, you have a choice of modal verbs (can, could, may, might, must, shall, should, will) which all mean slightly different things, degrees of possibility etc. Your textbook is saying that for "general" use (ie the default term when you aren't putting too much thought into how probable something was), is "could".
– Astralbee
4 hours ago
But isnt it rather wrong? Mostly, could just does not work, like in my example. I think it works for past abilities or permissions, but for past events usually modals are needed.
– John V
4 hours ago
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By "could" I mean "could"+verb which should not be used for single actions in the past, as explained by Cambridge grammar, for example. Past modal (could have) is the option I would use for the past. But the question is what is meant by the "general possibility in the past" where just "COULD" (not past modal COULD HAVE) is said to be possible.
– John V
5 hours ago
@JohnV Can you reference this "general possibility"? I don't think it is a proper term. There are a number of modal verbs that indicate varying degrees of probability/possibility. I have used "could" because that is the one you asked about.
– Astralbee
5 hours ago
Unfortunately, it is a printed book (Gethin, Grammar in Context, 11A), stating that COULD can be used for "general past possibility". Maybe it is somehow related to "past ability", for which COULD can be used? As in "He could swim when he was young" etc.
– John V
5 hours ago
@JohnV Okay, I think I understand. "General past possibility" is not a term. As I stated, you have a choice of modal verbs (can, could, may, might, must, shall, should, will) which all mean slightly different things, degrees of possibility etc. Your textbook is saying that for "general" use (ie the default term when you aren't putting too much thought into how probable something was), is "could".
– Astralbee
4 hours ago
But isnt it rather wrong? Mostly, could just does not work, like in my example. I think it works for past abilities or permissions, but for past events usually modals are needed.
– John V
4 hours ago
By "could" I mean "could"+verb which should not be used for single actions in the past, as explained by Cambridge grammar, for example. Past modal (could have) is the option I would use for the past. But the question is what is meant by the "general possibility in the past" where just "COULD" (not past modal COULD HAVE) is said to be possible.
– John V
5 hours ago
By "could" I mean "could"+verb which should not be used for single actions in the past, as explained by Cambridge grammar, for example. Past modal (could have) is the option I would use for the past. But the question is what is meant by the "general possibility in the past" where just "COULD" (not past modal COULD HAVE) is said to be possible.
– John V
5 hours ago
@JohnV Can you reference this "general possibility"? I don't think it is a proper term. There are a number of modal verbs that indicate varying degrees of probability/possibility. I have used "could" because that is the one you asked about.
– Astralbee
5 hours ago
@JohnV Can you reference this "general possibility"? I don't think it is a proper term. There are a number of modal verbs that indicate varying degrees of probability/possibility. I have used "could" because that is the one you asked about.
– Astralbee
5 hours ago
Unfortunately, it is a printed book (Gethin, Grammar in Context, 11A), stating that COULD can be used for "general past possibility". Maybe it is somehow related to "past ability", for which COULD can be used? As in "He could swim when he was young" etc.
– John V
5 hours ago
Unfortunately, it is a printed book (Gethin, Grammar in Context, 11A), stating that COULD can be used for "general past possibility". Maybe it is somehow related to "past ability", for which COULD can be used? As in "He could swim when he was young" etc.
– John V
5 hours ago
@JohnV Okay, I think I understand. "General past possibility" is not a term. As I stated, you have a choice of modal verbs (can, could, may, might, must, shall, should, will) which all mean slightly different things, degrees of possibility etc. Your textbook is saying that for "general" use (ie the default term when you aren't putting too much thought into how probable something was), is "could".
– Astralbee
4 hours ago
@JohnV Okay, I think I understand. "General past possibility" is not a term. As I stated, you have a choice of modal verbs (can, could, may, might, must, shall, should, will) which all mean slightly different things, degrees of possibility etc. Your textbook is saying that for "general" use (ie the default term when you aren't putting too much thought into how probable something was), is "could".
– Astralbee
4 hours ago
But isnt it rather wrong? Mostly, could just does not work, like in my example. I think it works for past abilities or permissions, but for past events usually modals are needed.
– John V
4 hours ago
But isnt it rather wrong? Mostly, could just does not work, like in my example. I think it works for past abilities or permissions, but for past events usually modals are needed.
– John V
4 hours ago
|
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