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I would like to know if there is a way to abbreviate "saint" in this french way. A dash is also commonly used.



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  • This is not a standard abbreviation and is used just for street signs, as far as I know. Did you find in other texts?

    – egreg
    22 hours ago











  • Okay did not know that. I don't think so, mainly on street sign yes. I really like the way it look compare to a simple St. I should not use it in a french document?

    – tugdual
    22 hours ago











  • Peripherally related: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/364024/…

    – Steven B. Segletes
    22 hours ago






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    Normally, this adjective should not be abbreviated in French, except occasionally if you're lacking space.

    – Bernard
    21 hours ago











  • Leaving aside why this was 'abbreviated' in the first place (perhaps this rule is English language only, and not French) ... but in general, "St" is not an abbreviation, but a contraction for the word "Saint". This means it should not have a 'dot' at all in the first place, i.e. St Germain. Compare to "Street", which is an abbreviation, e.g.: "St George St.". The same goes with other contractions vs abbreviations, e.g. "Dr Jekyll" but "Prof. Hyde".

    – Tasos Papastylianou
    21 hours ago
















14















I would like to know if there is a way to abbreviate "saint" in this french way. A dash is also commonly used.



enter image description here



My researches are unsuccessful at this point, thanks in advance.










share|improve this question























  • This is not a standard abbreviation and is used just for street signs, as far as I know. Did you find in other texts?

    – egreg
    22 hours ago











  • Okay did not know that. I don't think so, mainly on street sign yes. I really like the way it look compare to a simple St. I should not use it in a french document?

    – tugdual
    22 hours ago











  • Peripherally related: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/364024/…

    – Steven B. Segletes
    22 hours ago






  • 1





    Normally, this adjective should not be abbreviated in French, except occasionally if you're lacking space.

    – Bernard
    21 hours ago











  • Leaving aside why this was 'abbreviated' in the first place (perhaps this rule is English language only, and not French) ... but in general, "St" is not an abbreviation, but a contraction for the word "Saint". This means it should not have a 'dot' at all in the first place, i.e. St Germain. Compare to "Street", which is an abbreviation, e.g.: "St George St.". The same goes with other contractions vs abbreviations, e.g. "Dr Jekyll" but "Prof. Hyde".

    – Tasos Papastylianou
    21 hours ago














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I would like to know if there is a way to abbreviate "saint" in this french way. A dash is also commonly used.



enter image description here



My researches are unsuccessful at this point, thanks in advance.










share|improve this question














I would like to know if there is a way to abbreviate "saint" in this french way. A dash is also commonly used.



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My researches are unsuccessful at this point, thanks in advance.







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  • This is not a standard abbreviation and is used just for street signs, as far as I know. Did you find in other texts?

    – egreg
    22 hours ago











  • Okay did not know that. I don't think so, mainly on street sign yes. I really like the way it look compare to a simple St. I should not use it in a french document?

    – tugdual
    22 hours ago











  • Peripherally related: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/364024/…

    – Steven B. Segletes
    22 hours ago






  • 1





    Normally, this adjective should not be abbreviated in French, except occasionally if you're lacking space.

    – Bernard
    21 hours ago











  • Leaving aside why this was 'abbreviated' in the first place (perhaps this rule is English language only, and not French) ... but in general, "St" is not an abbreviation, but a contraction for the word "Saint". This means it should not have a 'dot' at all in the first place, i.e. St Germain. Compare to "Street", which is an abbreviation, e.g.: "St George St.". The same goes with other contractions vs abbreviations, e.g. "Dr Jekyll" but "Prof. Hyde".

    – Tasos Papastylianou
    21 hours ago



















  • This is not a standard abbreviation and is used just for street signs, as far as I know. Did you find in other texts?

    – egreg
    22 hours ago











  • Okay did not know that. I don't think so, mainly on street sign yes. I really like the way it look compare to a simple St. I should not use it in a french document?

    – tugdual
    22 hours ago











  • Peripherally related: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/364024/…

    – Steven B. Segletes
    22 hours ago






  • 1





    Normally, this adjective should not be abbreviated in French, except occasionally if you're lacking space.

    – Bernard
    21 hours ago











  • Leaving aside why this was 'abbreviated' in the first place (perhaps this rule is English language only, and not French) ... but in general, "St" is not an abbreviation, but a contraction for the word "Saint". This means it should not have a 'dot' at all in the first place, i.e. St Germain. Compare to "Street", which is an abbreviation, e.g.: "St George St.". The same goes with other contractions vs abbreviations, e.g. "Dr Jekyll" but "Prof. Hyde".

    – Tasos Papastylianou
    21 hours ago

















This is not a standard abbreviation and is used just for street signs, as far as I know. Did you find in other texts?

– egreg
22 hours ago





This is not a standard abbreviation and is used just for street signs, as far as I know. Did you find in other texts?

– egreg
22 hours ago













Okay did not know that. I don't think so, mainly on street sign yes. I really like the way it look compare to a simple St. I should not use it in a french document?

– tugdual
22 hours ago





Okay did not know that. I don't think so, mainly on street sign yes. I really like the way it look compare to a simple St. I should not use it in a french document?

– tugdual
22 hours ago













Peripherally related: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/364024/…

– Steven B. Segletes
22 hours ago





Peripherally related: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/364024/…

– Steven B. Segletes
22 hours ago




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1





Normally, this adjective should not be abbreviated in French, except occasionally if you're lacking space.

– Bernard
21 hours ago





Normally, this adjective should not be abbreviated in French, except occasionally if you're lacking space.

– Bernard
21 hours ago













Leaving aside why this was 'abbreviated' in the first place (perhaps this rule is English language only, and not French) ... but in general, "St" is not an abbreviation, but a contraction for the word "Saint". This means it should not have a 'dot' at all in the first place, i.e. St Germain. Compare to "Street", which is an abbreviation, e.g.: "St George St.". The same goes with other contractions vs abbreviations, e.g. "Dr Jekyll" but "Prof. Hyde".

– Tasos Papastylianou
21 hours ago





Leaving aside why this was 'abbreviated' in the first place (perhaps this rule is English language only, and not French) ... but in general, "St" is not an abbreviation, but a contraction for the word "Saint". This means it should not have a 'dot' at all in the first place, i.e. St Germain. Compare to "Street", which is an abbreviation, e.g.: "St George St.". The same goes with other contractions vs abbreviations, e.g. "Dr Jekyll" but "Prof. Hyde".

– Tasos Papastylianou
21 hours ago










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The following should produce what you want. You can use an optional argument to specify another letter than T (e.g. t):



documentclass[]{article}

newsaveboxmyboxA
newsaveboxmyboxB
newcommandsaint[1][T]
{%
begingroup
sboxmyboxA{S}%
useboxmyboxA
sboxmyboxB{tiny#1}%
rlap{raisebox{dimexprhtmyboxA-htmyboxB}{useboxmyboxB}}%
makebox[wdmyboxB]{.}%
endgroup
}

begin{document}
saint Germain
saint[t] Germain
end{document}


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Just for fun:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{xparse}
usepackage{fontspec}

setmainfont{Libre Bodoni}

NewDocumentCommand{frabbr}{sm}{%
IfBooleanTF{#1}{dofrabbr{}{#2}}{dofrabbr{hfil}{#2}}%
}

newcommand{dofrabbr}[2]{%
vbox tofontcharhtfont`T {%
ialign{%
#1##hfilcr
relscriptsize#2cr
noalign{nointerlineskipvfill}
.cr
}%
}%
}

makeatletter
newcommand{relscriptsize}{%
check@mathfontsfontsizessf@sizez@selectfont
}
makeatother

begin{document}

bfseries
begin{tabular}{@{}c@{}}
6frabbr*{me} Arrfrabbr{T} \
BOULEVARD \
Sfrabbr{T} GERMAIN
end{tabular}

end{document}


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    The following should produce what you want. You can use an optional argument to specify another letter than T (e.g. t):



    documentclass[]{article}

    newsaveboxmyboxA
    newsaveboxmyboxB
    newcommandsaint[1][T]
    {%
    begingroup
    sboxmyboxA{S}%
    useboxmyboxA
    sboxmyboxB{tiny#1}%
    rlap{raisebox{dimexprhtmyboxA-htmyboxB}{useboxmyboxB}}%
    makebox[wdmyboxB]{.}%
    endgroup
    }

    begin{document}
    saint Germain
    saint[t] Germain
    end{document}


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    • Thanks a lot, that's perfect!

      – tugdual
      22 hours ago
















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    The following should produce what you want. You can use an optional argument to specify another letter than T (e.g. t):



    documentclass[]{article}

    newsaveboxmyboxA
    newsaveboxmyboxB
    newcommandsaint[1][T]
    {%
    begingroup
    sboxmyboxA{S}%
    useboxmyboxA
    sboxmyboxB{tiny#1}%
    rlap{raisebox{dimexprhtmyboxA-htmyboxB}{useboxmyboxB}}%
    makebox[wdmyboxB]{.}%
    endgroup
    }

    begin{document}
    saint Germain
    saint[t] Germain
    end{document}


    enter image description here






    share|improve this answer
























    • Thanks a lot, that's perfect!

      – tugdual
      22 hours ago














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    The following should produce what you want. You can use an optional argument to specify another letter than T (e.g. t):



    documentclass[]{article}

    newsaveboxmyboxA
    newsaveboxmyboxB
    newcommandsaint[1][T]
    {%
    begingroup
    sboxmyboxA{S}%
    useboxmyboxA
    sboxmyboxB{tiny#1}%
    rlap{raisebox{dimexprhtmyboxA-htmyboxB}{useboxmyboxB}}%
    makebox[wdmyboxB]{.}%
    endgroup
    }

    begin{document}
    saint Germain
    saint[t] Germain
    end{document}


    enter image description here






    share|improve this answer













    The following should produce what you want. You can use an optional argument to specify another letter than T (e.g. t):



    documentclass[]{article}

    newsaveboxmyboxA
    newsaveboxmyboxB
    newcommandsaint[1][T]
    {%
    begingroup
    sboxmyboxA{S}%
    useboxmyboxA
    sboxmyboxB{tiny#1}%
    rlap{raisebox{dimexprhtmyboxA-htmyboxB}{useboxmyboxB}}%
    makebox[wdmyboxB]{.}%
    endgroup
    }

    begin{document}
    saint Germain
    saint[t] Germain
    end{document}


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    • Thanks a lot, that's perfect!

      – tugdual
      22 hours ago



















    • Thanks a lot, that's perfect!

      – tugdual
      22 hours ago

















    Thanks a lot, that's perfect!

    – tugdual
    22 hours ago





    Thanks a lot, that's perfect!

    – tugdual
    22 hours ago











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    Just for fun:



    documentclass{article}
    usepackage{xparse}
    usepackage{fontspec}

    setmainfont{Libre Bodoni}

    NewDocumentCommand{frabbr}{sm}{%
    IfBooleanTF{#1}{dofrabbr{}{#2}}{dofrabbr{hfil}{#2}}%
    }

    newcommand{dofrabbr}[2]{%
    vbox tofontcharhtfont`T {%
    ialign{%
    #1##hfilcr
    relscriptsize#2cr
    noalign{nointerlineskipvfill}
    .cr
    }%
    }%
    }

    makeatletter
    newcommand{relscriptsize}{%
    check@mathfontsfontsizessf@sizez@selectfont
    }
    makeatother

    begin{document}

    bfseries
    begin{tabular}{@{}c@{}}
    6frabbr*{me} Arrfrabbr{T} \
    BOULEVARD \
    Sfrabbr{T} GERMAIN
    end{tabular}

    end{document}


    enter image description here






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      15














      Just for fun:



      documentclass{article}
      usepackage{xparse}
      usepackage{fontspec}

      setmainfont{Libre Bodoni}

      NewDocumentCommand{frabbr}{sm}{%
      IfBooleanTF{#1}{dofrabbr{}{#2}}{dofrabbr{hfil}{#2}}%
      }

      newcommand{dofrabbr}[2]{%
      vbox tofontcharhtfont`T {%
      ialign{%
      #1##hfilcr
      relscriptsize#2cr
      noalign{nointerlineskipvfill}
      .cr
      }%
      }%
      }

      makeatletter
      newcommand{relscriptsize}{%
      check@mathfontsfontsizessf@sizez@selectfont
      }
      makeatother

      begin{document}

      bfseries
      begin{tabular}{@{}c@{}}
      6frabbr*{me} Arrfrabbr{T} \
      BOULEVARD \
      Sfrabbr{T} GERMAIN
      end{tabular}

      end{document}


      enter image description here






      share|improve this answer




























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        15








        15







        Just for fun:



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{xparse}
        usepackage{fontspec}

        setmainfont{Libre Bodoni}

        NewDocumentCommand{frabbr}{sm}{%
        IfBooleanTF{#1}{dofrabbr{}{#2}}{dofrabbr{hfil}{#2}}%
        }

        newcommand{dofrabbr}[2]{%
        vbox tofontcharhtfont`T {%
        ialign{%
        #1##hfilcr
        relscriptsize#2cr
        noalign{nointerlineskipvfill}
        .cr
        }%
        }%
        }

        makeatletter
        newcommand{relscriptsize}{%
        check@mathfontsfontsizessf@sizez@selectfont
        }
        makeatother

        begin{document}

        bfseries
        begin{tabular}{@{}c@{}}
        6frabbr*{me} Arrfrabbr{T} \
        BOULEVARD \
        Sfrabbr{T} GERMAIN
        end{tabular}

        end{document}


        enter image description here






        share|improve this answer















        Just for fun:



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{xparse}
        usepackage{fontspec}

        setmainfont{Libre Bodoni}

        NewDocumentCommand{frabbr}{sm}{%
        IfBooleanTF{#1}{dofrabbr{}{#2}}{dofrabbr{hfil}{#2}}%
        }

        newcommand{dofrabbr}[2]{%
        vbox tofontcharhtfont`T {%
        ialign{%
        #1##hfilcr
        relscriptsize#2cr
        noalign{nointerlineskipvfill}
        .cr
        }%
        }%
        }

        makeatletter
        newcommand{relscriptsize}{%
        check@mathfontsfontsizessf@sizez@selectfont
        }
        makeatother

        begin{document}

        bfseries
        begin{tabular}{@{}c@{}}
        6frabbr*{me} Arrfrabbr{T} \
        BOULEVARD \
        Sfrabbr{T} GERMAIN
        end{tabular}

        end{document}


        enter image description here







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