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I am 35 years old, single, and live in the US. My income is 78K to 80K after taxes and insurance.



I pay $1,500 for rent+utilities, $150 for phone bill, $450 for auto loan, $300 for auto insurance (for two people; I am helping a friend who can't pay auto insurance), $750 for a personal loan and $750 to $1,000 for credit card. I also need to send $100 to $200 to my home country. Total monthly expenses are $3,950 to $4,200.



I have a $16k auto loan at 7%, $32k of credit card debt at 20-22% and a personal loan of $18k at 17%. Total debt = $64k.



After the above expenses I need money for groceries, clothes, gas and other monthly needs.



I want to be debt free or at least decrease my total debts from $64k to $10k.



I can't consolidate my debts, because I already have a personal loan and I have a poor credit score.



Please advise me how to reduce my debt.



Can I be debt free or should I file for bankruptcy (I don't know if that's possible, because I am not a US citizen).










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    $4,200 * 12 = $50,400. Your income is ~80k after taxes, so where's the $30k/year going?

    – Hart CO
    14 hours ago






  • 3





    Yes I am in US. @HartCO I couldn't manage my finances for various reasons, I need help. I had to spend 10K for a hospital because insurance company denied my claim (I was having a short term insurance because I was not eligible for regular insurance at that time). Then I lost my girl friend, then started drinking more, like I used to spend 500 to 600 dollars on liquor and...

    – The Guest
    14 hours ago








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    Yup, OP has some huge money leaks they are not documenting.

    – Harper
    12 hours ago











  • $120 phone bill? In 2019? How do you manage to pay that much for your phone?

    – Philipp
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    He talks about sending money home. Which implies family abroad, which may explai the big phone bill. SOmeone needs to get an introduction to skype to cut that down.

    – TomTom
    2 hours ago
















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I am 35 years old, single, and live in the US. My income is 78K to 80K after taxes and insurance.



I pay $1,500 for rent+utilities, $150 for phone bill, $450 for auto loan, $300 for auto insurance (for two people; I am helping a friend who can't pay auto insurance), $750 for a personal loan and $750 to $1,000 for credit card. I also need to send $100 to $200 to my home country. Total monthly expenses are $3,950 to $4,200.



I have a $16k auto loan at 7%, $32k of credit card debt at 20-22% and a personal loan of $18k at 17%. Total debt = $64k.



After the above expenses I need money for groceries, clothes, gas and other monthly needs.



I want to be debt free or at least decrease my total debts from $64k to $10k.



I can't consolidate my debts, because I already have a personal loan and I have a poor credit score.



Please advise me how to reduce my debt.



Can I be debt free or should I file for bankruptcy (I don't know if that's possible, because I am not a US citizen).










share|improve this question




















  • 10





    $4,200 * 12 = $50,400. Your income is ~80k after taxes, so where's the $30k/year going?

    – Hart CO
    14 hours ago






  • 3





    Yes I am in US. @HartCO I couldn't manage my finances for various reasons, I need help. I had to spend 10K for a hospital because insurance company denied my claim (I was having a short term insurance because I was not eligible for regular insurance at that time). Then I lost my girl friend, then started drinking more, like I used to spend 500 to 600 dollars on liquor and...

    – The Guest
    14 hours ago








  • 7





    Yup, OP has some huge money leaks they are not documenting.

    – Harper
    12 hours ago











  • $120 phone bill? In 2019? How do you manage to pay that much for your phone?

    – Philipp
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    He talks about sending money home. Which implies family abroad, which may explai the big phone bill. SOmeone needs to get an introduction to skype to cut that down.

    – TomTom
    2 hours ago














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I am 35 years old, single, and live in the US. My income is 78K to 80K after taxes and insurance.



I pay $1,500 for rent+utilities, $150 for phone bill, $450 for auto loan, $300 for auto insurance (for two people; I am helping a friend who can't pay auto insurance), $750 for a personal loan and $750 to $1,000 for credit card. I also need to send $100 to $200 to my home country. Total monthly expenses are $3,950 to $4,200.



I have a $16k auto loan at 7%, $32k of credit card debt at 20-22% and a personal loan of $18k at 17%. Total debt = $64k.



After the above expenses I need money for groceries, clothes, gas and other monthly needs.



I want to be debt free or at least decrease my total debts from $64k to $10k.



I can't consolidate my debts, because I already have a personal loan and I have a poor credit score.



Please advise me how to reduce my debt.



Can I be debt free or should I file for bankruptcy (I don't know if that's possible, because I am not a US citizen).










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I am 35 years old, single, and live in the US. My income is 78K to 80K after taxes and insurance.



I pay $1,500 for rent+utilities, $150 for phone bill, $450 for auto loan, $300 for auto insurance (for two people; I am helping a friend who can't pay auto insurance), $750 for a personal loan and $750 to $1,000 for credit card. I also need to send $100 to $200 to my home country. Total monthly expenses are $3,950 to $4,200.



I have a $16k auto loan at 7%, $32k of credit card debt at 20-22% and a personal loan of $18k at 17%. Total debt = $64k.



After the above expenses I need money for groceries, clothes, gas and other monthly needs.



I want to be debt free or at least decrease my total debts from $64k to $10k.



I can't consolidate my debts, because I already have a personal loan and I have a poor credit score.



Please advise me how to reduce my debt.



Can I be debt free or should I file for bankruptcy (I don't know if that's possible, because I am not a US citizen).







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  • 10





    $4,200 * 12 = $50,400. Your income is ~80k after taxes, so where's the $30k/year going?

    – Hart CO
    14 hours ago






  • 3





    Yes I am in US. @HartCO I couldn't manage my finances for various reasons, I need help. I had to spend 10K for a hospital because insurance company denied my claim (I was having a short term insurance because I was not eligible for regular insurance at that time). Then I lost my girl friend, then started drinking more, like I used to spend 500 to 600 dollars on liquor and...

    – The Guest
    14 hours ago








  • 7





    Yup, OP has some huge money leaks they are not documenting.

    – Harper
    12 hours ago











  • $120 phone bill? In 2019? How do you manage to pay that much for your phone?

    – Philipp
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    He talks about sending money home. Which implies family abroad, which may explai the big phone bill. SOmeone needs to get an introduction to skype to cut that down.

    – TomTom
    2 hours ago














  • 10





    $4,200 * 12 = $50,400. Your income is ~80k after taxes, so where's the $30k/year going?

    – Hart CO
    14 hours ago






  • 3





    Yes I am in US. @HartCO I couldn't manage my finances for various reasons, I need help. I had to spend 10K for a hospital because insurance company denied my claim (I was having a short term insurance because I was not eligible for regular insurance at that time). Then I lost my girl friend, then started drinking more, like I used to spend 500 to 600 dollars on liquor and...

    – The Guest
    14 hours ago








  • 7





    Yup, OP has some huge money leaks they are not documenting.

    – Harper
    12 hours ago











  • $120 phone bill? In 2019? How do you manage to pay that much for your phone?

    – Philipp
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    He talks about sending money home. Which implies family abroad, which may explai the big phone bill. SOmeone needs to get an introduction to skype to cut that down.

    – TomTom
    2 hours ago








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10





$4,200 * 12 = $50,400. Your income is ~80k after taxes, so where's the $30k/year going?

– Hart CO
14 hours ago





$4,200 * 12 = $50,400. Your income is ~80k after taxes, so where's the $30k/year going?

– Hart CO
14 hours ago




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3





Yes I am in US. @HartCO I couldn't manage my finances for various reasons, I need help. I had to spend 10K for a hospital because insurance company denied my claim (I was having a short term insurance because I was not eligible for regular insurance at that time). Then I lost my girl friend, then started drinking more, like I used to spend 500 to 600 dollars on liquor and...

– The Guest
14 hours ago







Yes I am in US. @HartCO I couldn't manage my finances for various reasons, I need help. I had to spend 10K for a hospital because insurance company denied my claim (I was having a short term insurance because I was not eligible for regular insurance at that time). Then I lost my girl friend, then started drinking more, like I used to spend 500 to 600 dollars on liquor and...

– The Guest
14 hours ago






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7





Yup, OP has some huge money leaks they are not documenting.

– Harper
12 hours ago





Yup, OP has some huge money leaks they are not documenting.

– Harper
12 hours ago













$120 phone bill? In 2019? How do you manage to pay that much for your phone?

– Philipp
3 hours ago





$120 phone bill? In 2019? How do you manage to pay that much for your phone?

– Philipp
3 hours ago




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He talks about sending money home. Which implies family abroad, which may explai the big phone bill. SOmeone needs to get an introduction to skype to cut that down.

– TomTom
2 hours ago





He talks about sending money home. Which implies family abroad, which may explai the big phone bill. SOmeone needs to get an introduction to skype to cut that down.

– TomTom
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Can I be debt free or should I file bankruptcy




There's no reason to file bankruptcy with $64k in debt and a $80K net salary. You can get out of debt in 1-2 years if you're willing to sacrifice. The harder you sacrifice, the less time it will take.




Please advise me how to reduce my debt.





  • Stop creating any more debt. Cut up all credit cards

  • Put $1,000-2,000 in a cash savings account to cover "emergencies" while you are getting out of debt.

  • Get on a cash budget. List out all of your expenses in order of priority (housing, food, utilities, transportation, etc.). Put debts last.

  • Cut expenses to the bone. No restaurants, no vacations. Every discretionary dollar you spend restricts how quickly you get the debt paid off.

  • Once you have all of your expenses laid out, all remaining cash goes to your highest interest-rate debt (I normally suggest the smallest balance, but the interest rates and balances are so high here it might make more of a difference that most cases). Once the cash runs out, stop spending.

  • Pay minimum payments on all other debts. Do not skip payments unless you're already in default.


Once you determine how much per month you can pay towards debts, you can figure out how long it will take you to pay them off. Don't expect any quick solutions. Your debt has been building up over time; there's no reason to expect to get rid of it quickly.



Some things you can do to jump-start your journey:




  • Sell the car. Use the proceeds to get a cheap car that you can pay for in cash.

  • Sell other stuff. Anything you can sell online will help you get out of debt sooner.

  • Get extra work. You can probably find part-time work that pays $1-2,000 per month.






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    @TheGuest You're not alone. The first step (getting a budget and sticking to it) is the hardest by far. It will take some time and discipline but once you have that down you'll be less inclined to overspend going forward.

    – D Stanley
    13 hours ago






  • 6





    +1, great answer. @TheGuest, if you are having trouble with motivation and the procedure of budgeting, I recommend the book The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey, which will walk you through all the steps necessary to get to being debt free.

    – Ben Miller
    13 hours ago






  • 1





    Making a formal budget and sticking to it is probably the most important item in this list. You'll never get out of debt unless you stop accumulating additional debt. If you have trouble sticking to a budget, I've found it helpful to recruit a trusted friend to "audit your books" at the end of the month and help keep you accountable.

    – bta
    9 hours ago






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    Sell the car. Use the proceeds to get a cheap car that you can pay for in cash. Whether this is good advice depends on the current value of the car.

    – Justin Lardinois
    4 hours ago






  • 3





    In addition selling the car and focussing on that expenditure probably isn't a good use of time. The asker has a very large annual surplus already that they are spending on something. If they figure out how to stop doing that then they can forget about economising on the car. If they don't figure it out the few hundred per month saved by changing cars will just be spend along with the 30k or so that is disappearing from the budget each year.

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You need to change the way you think. First, understand compounding. Not just intellectually, but viscerally. You need to develop an aversion to spending borrowed money.



A debt with 22% APR doubles every 38 months.



Every dollar you pay down your debt, cuts the total length of time you will be paying that horrible interest. Every $1 you spend now increases your time to get out of debt, and costs you around $3.70 if it takes you 6 years to get debt free.



Take a look at graphs of compounding interest. They're designed to excite you about saving, but debt grows exponentially too. That should scare you. Set one of those graphs in front of you until it does.



Then, use your intellectual knowledge of compounding to change your real-world behavior. Learn to turn price tags into what it will actually cost you, by multiplying by 3.70. That $150 favor you do paying car insurance for a friend actually costs you $555. Every month. You are out $750 for your relatives in your home country to receive $200. The $2 cup of coffee costs you $8 (don't forget sales tax!). The $7 lunch costs you $28. Splitting a night out with your friends is costing them $150 each, but you're out $550!



But lucky for you, you've got a place to put money where you don't get back only 1/3.7 of its value -- your debts. They work in reverse. Where lunch will have you paying $28 for a meal worth $7, every extra $10 you throw at your credit card debt puts $37 into future-you's pocket.



Start seeing the things you spend money on with their true, just-for-you price tags, and you'll find saying no to waste and eating pasta at home at lot more compelling.



The best part is that if you do change your thinking like this, D Stanley's estimate that you could be out of $66k debt in under 2 years, and back to living life normally, paying for things at the same price everyone else gets, is 100% possible.






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    Wow, the part about multiplying by 3.7 is really interesting. Is this a common piece of advice? I've never heard it before

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    @Jon: There's nothing special about 3.7, it's just 22% APR compounded monthly for 72 months. You can substitute any APR and duration. If you have no debt except subsidized student loans, your number might be 1.3 or so. If OP had missed a payment before asking here, and therefore was hit with penalty APR, it could be 8.5 (based on 30.99% APR and 7 years).

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    8 hours ago













  • @Jon: The one place you might have seen the multiplier in effect before, is if you take a look at a credit card statement where it says "if you make only minimum payments, it'll take you X years and you'll pay Y in total... if you make 50% larger payments, it'll take you X2 years and you'll pay Z in total". I expect that right now OP's number for Z is somewhere over 3 times his "current balance" (at that doesn't account for the fact every new dollar is effectively paid on the tail end, so it compounds more interest than any other) and Y is simply insane.

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    +1 because you showed how much money a $8 coffey will cost you in 7 years. Its sometimes helpful to see things this way. May i ask you if you could improve your answer by adding the formular to get to the 3.7 factor? It could also help future readers.

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Can I be debt free or should I file bankruptcy




There's no reason to file bankruptcy with $64k in debt and a $80K net salary. You can get out of debt in 1-2 years if you're willing to sacrifice. The harder you sacrifice, the less time it will take.




Please advise me how to reduce my debt.





  • Stop creating any more debt. Cut up all credit cards

  • Put $1,000-2,000 in a cash savings account to cover "emergencies" while you are getting out of debt.

  • Get on a cash budget. List out all of your expenses in order of priority (housing, food, utilities, transportation, etc.). Put debts last.

  • Cut expenses to the bone. No restaurants, no vacations. Every discretionary dollar you spend restricts how quickly you get the debt paid off.

  • Once you have all of your expenses laid out, all remaining cash goes to your highest interest-rate debt (I normally suggest the smallest balance, but the interest rates and balances are so high here it might make more of a difference that most cases). Once the cash runs out, stop spending.

  • Pay minimum payments on all other debts. Do not skip payments unless you're already in default.


Once you determine how much per month you can pay towards debts, you can figure out how long it will take you to pay them off. Don't expect any quick solutions. Your debt has been building up over time; there's no reason to expect to get rid of it quickly.



Some things you can do to jump-start your journey:




  • Sell the car. Use the proceeds to get a cheap car that you can pay for in cash.

  • Sell other stuff. Anything you can sell online will help you get out of debt sooner.

  • Get extra work. You can probably find part-time work that pays $1-2,000 per month.






share|improve this answer





















  • 5





    @TheGuest You're not alone. The first step (getting a budget and sticking to it) is the hardest by far. It will take some time and discipline but once you have that down you'll be less inclined to overspend going forward.

    – D Stanley
    13 hours ago






  • 6





    +1, great answer. @TheGuest, if you are having trouble with motivation and the procedure of budgeting, I recommend the book The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey, which will walk you through all the steps necessary to get to being debt free.

    – Ben Miller
    13 hours ago






  • 1





    Making a formal budget and sticking to it is probably the most important item in this list. You'll never get out of debt unless you stop accumulating additional debt. If you have trouble sticking to a budget, I've found it helpful to recruit a trusted friend to "audit your books" at the end of the month and help keep you accountable.

    – bta
    9 hours ago






  • 2





    Sell the car. Use the proceeds to get a cheap car that you can pay for in cash. Whether this is good advice depends on the current value of the car.

    – Justin Lardinois
    4 hours ago






  • 3





    In addition selling the car and focussing on that expenditure probably isn't a good use of time. The asker has a very large annual surplus already that they are spending on something. If they figure out how to stop doing that then they can forget about economising on the car. If they don't figure it out the few hundred per month saved by changing cars will just be spend along with the 30k or so that is disappearing from the budget each year.

    – Eric Nolan
    2 hours ago
















34















Can I be debt free or should I file bankruptcy




There's no reason to file bankruptcy with $64k in debt and a $80K net salary. You can get out of debt in 1-2 years if you're willing to sacrifice. The harder you sacrifice, the less time it will take.




Please advise me how to reduce my debt.





  • Stop creating any more debt. Cut up all credit cards

  • Put $1,000-2,000 in a cash savings account to cover "emergencies" while you are getting out of debt.

  • Get on a cash budget. List out all of your expenses in order of priority (housing, food, utilities, transportation, etc.). Put debts last.

  • Cut expenses to the bone. No restaurants, no vacations. Every discretionary dollar you spend restricts how quickly you get the debt paid off.

  • Once you have all of your expenses laid out, all remaining cash goes to your highest interest-rate debt (I normally suggest the smallest balance, but the interest rates and balances are so high here it might make more of a difference that most cases). Once the cash runs out, stop spending.

  • Pay minimum payments on all other debts. Do not skip payments unless you're already in default.


Once you determine how much per month you can pay towards debts, you can figure out how long it will take you to pay them off. Don't expect any quick solutions. Your debt has been building up over time; there's no reason to expect to get rid of it quickly.



Some things you can do to jump-start your journey:




  • Sell the car. Use the proceeds to get a cheap car that you can pay for in cash.

  • Sell other stuff. Anything you can sell online will help you get out of debt sooner.

  • Get extra work. You can probably find part-time work that pays $1-2,000 per month.






share|improve this answer





















  • 5





    @TheGuest You're not alone. The first step (getting a budget and sticking to it) is the hardest by far. It will take some time and discipline but once you have that down you'll be less inclined to overspend going forward.

    – D Stanley
    13 hours ago






  • 6





    +1, great answer. @TheGuest, if you are having trouble with motivation and the procedure of budgeting, I recommend the book The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey, which will walk you through all the steps necessary to get to being debt free.

    – Ben Miller
    13 hours ago






  • 1





    Making a formal budget and sticking to it is probably the most important item in this list. You'll never get out of debt unless you stop accumulating additional debt. If you have trouble sticking to a budget, I've found it helpful to recruit a trusted friend to "audit your books" at the end of the month and help keep you accountable.

    – bta
    9 hours ago






  • 2





    Sell the car. Use the proceeds to get a cheap car that you can pay for in cash. Whether this is good advice depends on the current value of the car.

    – Justin Lardinois
    4 hours ago






  • 3





    In addition selling the car and focussing on that expenditure probably isn't a good use of time. The asker has a very large annual surplus already that they are spending on something. If they figure out how to stop doing that then they can forget about economising on the car. If they don't figure it out the few hundred per month saved by changing cars will just be spend along with the 30k or so that is disappearing from the budget each year.

    – Eric Nolan
    2 hours ago














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Can I be debt free or should I file bankruptcy




There's no reason to file bankruptcy with $64k in debt and a $80K net salary. You can get out of debt in 1-2 years if you're willing to sacrifice. The harder you sacrifice, the less time it will take.




Please advise me how to reduce my debt.





  • Stop creating any more debt. Cut up all credit cards

  • Put $1,000-2,000 in a cash savings account to cover "emergencies" while you are getting out of debt.

  • Get on a cash budget. List out all of your expenses in order of priority (housing, food, utilities, transportation, etc.). Put debts last.

  • Cut expenses to the bone. No restaurants, no vacations. Every discretionary dollar you spend restricts how quickly you get the debt paid off.

  • Once you have all of your expenses laid out, all remaining cash goes to your highest interest-rate debt (I normally suggest the smallest balance, but the interest rates and balances are so high here it might make more of a difference that most cases). Once the cash runs out, stop spending.

  • Pay minimum payments on all other debts. Do not skip payments unless you're already in default.


Once you determine how much per month you can pay towards debts, you can figure out how long it will take you to pay them off. Don't expect any quick solutions. Your debt has been building up over time; there's no reason to expect to get rid of it quickly.



Some things you can do to jump-start your journey:




  • Sell the car. Use the proceeds to get a cheap car that you can pay for in cash.

  • Sell other stuff. Anything you can sell online will help you get out of debt sooner.

  • Get extra work. You can probably find part-time work that pays $1-2,000 per month.






share|improve this answer
















Can I be debt free or should I file bankruptcy




There's no reason to file bankruptcy with $64k in debt and a $80K net salary. You can get out of debt in 1-2 years if you're willing to sacrifice. The harder you sacrifice, the less time it will take.




Please advise me how to reduce my debt.





  • Stop creating any more debt. Cut up all credit cards

  • Put $1,000-2,000 in a cash savings account to cover "emergencies" while you are getting out of debt.

  • Get on a cash budget. List out all of your expenses in order of priority (housing, food, utilities, transportation, etc.). Put debts last.

  • Cut expenses to the bone. No restaurants, no vacations. Every discretionary dollar you spend restricts how quickly you get the debt paid off.

  • Once you have all of your expenses laid out, all remaining cash goes to your highest interest-rate debt (I normally suggest the smallest balance, but the interest rates and balances are so high here it might make more of a difference that most cases). Once the cash runs out, stop spending.

  • Pay minimum payments on all other debts. Do not skip payments unless you're already in default.


Once you determine how much per month you can pay towards debts, you can figure out how long it will take you to pay them off. Don't expect any quick solutions. Your debt has been building up over time; there's no reason to expect to get rid of it quickly.



Some things you can do to jump-start your journey:




  • Sell the car. Use the proceeds to get a cheap car that you can pay for in cash.

  • Sell other stuff. Anything you can sell online will help you get out of debt sooner.

  • Get extra work. You can probably find part-time work that pays $1-2,000 per month.







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    @TheGuest You're not alone. The first step (getting a budget and sticking to it) is the hardest by far. It will take some time and discipline but once you have that down you'll be less inclined to overspend going forward.

    – D Stanley
    13 hours ago






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    +1, great answer. @TheGuest, if you are having trouble with motivation and the procedure of budgeting, I recommend the book The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey, which will walk you through all the steps necessary to get to being debt free.

    – Ben Miller
    13 hours ago






  • 1





    Making a formal budget and sticking to it is probably the most important item in this list. You'll never get out of debt unless you stop accumulating additional debt. If you have trouble sticking to a budget, I've found it helpful to recruit a trusted friend to "audit your books" at the end of the month and help keep you accountable.

    – bta
    9 hours ago






  • 2





    Sell the car. Use the proceeds to get a cheap car that you can pay for in cash. Whether this is good advice depends on the current value of the car.

    – Justin Lardinois
    4 hours ago






  • 3





    In addition selling the car and focussing on that expenditure probably isn't a good use of time. The asker has a very large annual surplus already that they are spending on something. If they figure out how to stop doing that then they can forget about economising on the car. If they don't figure it out the few hundred per month saved by changing cars will just be spend along with the 30k or so that is disappearing from the budget each year.

    – Eric Nolan
    2 hours ago














  • 5





    @TheGuest You're not alone. The first step (getting a budget and sticking to it) is the hardest by far. It will take some time and discipline but once you have that down you'll be less inclined to overspend going forward.

    – D Stanley
    13 hours ago






  • 6





    +1, great answer. @TheGuest, if you are having trouble with motivation and the procedure of budgeting, I recommend the book The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey, which will walk you through all the steps necessary to get to being debt free.

    – Ben Miller
    13 hours ago






  • 1





    Making a formal budget and sticking to it is probably the most important item in this list. You'll never get out of debt unless you stop accumulating additional debt. If you have trouble sticking to a budget, I've found it helpful to recruit a trusted friend to "audit your books" at the end of the month and help keep you accountable.

    – bta
    9 hours ago






  • 2





    Sell the car. Use the proceeds to get a cheap car that you can pay for in cash. Whether this is good advice depends on the current value of the car.

    – Justin Lardinois
    4 hours ago






  • 3





    In addition selling the car and focussing on that expenditure probably isn't a good use of time. The asker has a very large annual surplus already that they are spending on something. If they figure out how to stop doing that then they can forget about economising on the car. If they don't figure it out the few hundred per month saved by changing cars will just be spend along with the 30k or so that is disappearing from the budget each year.

    – Eric Nolan
    2 hours ago








5




5





@TheGuest You're not alone. The first step (getting a budget and sticking to it) is the hardest by far. It will take some time and discipline but once you have that down you'll be less inclined to overspend going forward.

– D Stanley
13 hours ago





@TheGuest You're not alone. The first step (getting a budget and sticking to it) is the hardest by far. It will take some time and discipline but once you have that down you'll be less inclined to overspend going forward.

– D Stanley
13 hours ago




6




6





+1, great answer. @TheGuest, if you are having trouble with motivation and the procedure of budgeting, I recommend the book The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey, which will walk you through all the steps necessary to get to being debt free.

– Ben Miller
13 hours ago





+1, great answer. @TheGuest, if you are having trouble with motivation and the procedure of budgeting, I recommend the book The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey, which will walk you through all the steps necessary to get to being debt free.

– Ben Miller
13 hours ago




1




1





Making a formal budget and sticking to it is probably the most important item in this list. You'll never get out of debt unless you stop accumulating additional debt. If you have trouble sticking to a budget, I've found it helpful to recruit a trusted friend to "audit your books" at the end of the month and help keep you accountable.

– bta
9 hours ago





Making a formal budget and sticking to it is probably the most important item in this list. You'll never get out of debt unless you stop accumulating additional debt. If you have trouble sticking to a budget, I've found it helpful to recruit a trusted friend to "audit your books" at the end of the month and help keep you accountable.

– bta
9 hours ago




2




2





Sell the car. Use the proceeds to get a cheap car that you can pay for in cash. Whether this is good advice depends on the current value of the car.

– Justin Lardinois
4 hours ago





Sell the car. Use the proceeds to get a cheap car that you can pay for in cash. Whether this is good advice depends on the current value of the car.

– Justin Lardinois
4 hours ago




3




3





In addition selling the car and focussing on that expenditure probably isn't a good use of time. The asker has a very large annual surplus already that they are spending on something. If they figure out how to stop doing that then they can forget about economising on the car. If they don't figure it out the few hundred per month saved by changing cars will just be spend along with the 30k or so that is disappearing from the budget each year.

– Eric Nolan
2 hours ago





In addition selling the car and focussing on that expenditure probably isn't a good use of time. The asker has a very large annual surplus already that they are spending on something. If they figure out how to stop doing that then they can forget about economising on the car. If they don't figure it out the few hundred per month saved by changing cars will just be spend along with the 30k or so that is disappearing from the budget each year.

– Eric Nolan
2 hours ago













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You need to change the way you think. First, understand compounding. Not just intellectually, but viscerally. You need to develop an aversion to spending borrowed money.



A debt with 22% APR doubles every 38 months.



Every dollar you pay down your debt, cuts the total length of time you will be paying that horrible interest. Every $1 you spend now increases your time to get out of debt, and costs you around $3.70 if it takes you 6 years to get debt free.



Take a look at graphs of compounding interest. They're designed to excite you about saving, but debt grows exponentially too. That should scare you. Set one of those graphs in front of you until it does.



Then, use your intellectual knowledge of compounding to change your real-world behavior. Learn to turn price tags into what it will actually cost you, by multiplying by 3.70. That $150 favor you do paying car insurance for a friend actually costs you $555. Every month. You are out $750 for your relatives in your home country to receive $200. The $2 cup of coffee costs you $8 (don't forget sales tax!). The $7 lunch costs you $28. Splitting a night out with your friends is costing them $150 each, but you're out $550!



But lucky for you, you've got a place to put money where you don't get back only 1/3.7 of its value -- your debts. They work in reverse. Where lunch will have you paying $28 for a meal worth $7, every extra $10 you throw at your credit card debt puts $37 into future-you's pocket.



Start seeing the things you spend money on with their true, just-for-you price tags, and you'll find saying no to waste and eating pasta at home at lot more compelling.



The best part is that if you do change your thinking like this, D Stanley's estimate that you could be out of $66k debt in under 2 years, and back to living life normally, paying for things at the same price everyone else gets, is 100% possible.






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    Wow, the part about multiplying by 3.7 is really interesting. Is this a common piece of advice? I've never heard it before

    – Jon
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @Jon: There's nothing special about 3.7, it's just 22% APR compounded monthly for 72 months. You can substitute any APR and duration. If you have no debt except subsidized student loans, your number might be 1.3 or so. If OP had missed a payment before asking here, and therefore was hit with penalty APR, it could be 8.5 (based on 30.99% APR and 7 years).

    – Ben Voigt
    8 hours ago













  • @Jon: The one place you might have seen the multiplier in effect before, is if you take a look at a credit card statement where it says "if you make only minimum payments, it'll take you X years and you'll pay Y in total... if you make 50% larger payments, it'll take you X2 years and you'll pay Z in total". I expect that right now OP's number for Z is somewhere over 3 times his "current balance" (at that doesn't account for the fact every new dollar is effectively paid on the tail end, so it compounds more interest than any other) and Y is simply insane.

    – Ben Voigt
    8 hours ago






  • 10





    +1 because you showed how much money a $8 coffey will cost you in 7 years. Its sometimes helpful to see things this way. May i ask you if you could improve your answer by adding the formular to get to the 3.7 factor? It could also help future readers.

    – some_coder
    5 hours ago
















22














You need to change the way you think. First, understand compounding. Not just intellectually, but viscerally. You need to develop an aversion to spending borrowed money.



A debt with 22% APR doubles every 38 months.



Every dollar you pay down your debt, cuts the total length of time you will be paying that horrible interest. Every $1 you spend now increases your time to get out of debt, and costs you around $3.70 if it takes you 6 years to get debt free.



Take a look at graphs of compounding interest. They're designed to excite you about saving, but debt grows exponentially too. That should scare you. Set one of those graphs in front of you until it does.



Then, use your intellectual knowledge of compounding to change your real-world behavior. Learn to turn price tags into what it will actually cost you, by multiplying by 3.70. That $150 favor you do paying car insurance for a friend actually costs you $555. Every month. You are out $750 for your relatives in your home country to receive $200. The $2 cup of coffee costs you $8 (don't forget sales tax!). The $7 lunch costs you $28. Splitting a night out with your friends is costing them $150 each, but you're out $550!



But lucky for you, you've got a place to put money where you don't get back only 1/3.7 of its value -- your debts. They work in reverse. Where lunch will have you paying $28 for a meal worth $7, every extra $10 you throw at your credit card debt puts $37 into future-you's pocket.



Start seeing the things you spend money on with their true, just-for-you price tags, and you'll find saying no to waste and eating pasta at home at lot more compelling.



The best part is that if you do change your thinking like this, D Stanley's estimate that you could be out of $66k debt in under 2 years, and back to living life normally, paying for things at the same price everyone else gets, is 100% possible.






share|improve this answer



















  • 1





    Wow, the part about multiplying by 3.7 is really interesting. Is this a common piece of advice? I've never heard it before

    – Jon
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @Jon: There's nothing special about 3.7, it's just 22% APR compounded monthly for 72 months. You can substitute any APR and duration. If you have no debt except subsidized student loans, your number might be 1.3 or so. If OP had missed a payment before asking here, and therefore was hit with penalty APR, it could be 8.5 (based on 30.99% APR and 7 years).

    – Ben Voigt
    8 hours ago













  • @Jon: The one place you might have seen the multiplier in effect before, is if you take a look at a credit card statement where it says "if you make only minimum payments, it'll take you X years and you'll pay Y in total... if you make 50% larger payments, it'll take you X2 years and you'll pay Z in total". I expect that right now OP's number for Z is somewhere over 3 times his "current balance" (at that doesn't account for the fact every new dollar is effectively paid on the tail end, so it compounds more interest than any other) and Y is simply insane.

    – Ben Voigt
    8 hours ago






  • 10





    +1 because you showed how much money a $8 coffey will cost you in 7 years. Its sometimes helpful to see things this way. May i ask you if you could improve your answer by adding the formular to get to the 3.7 factor? It could also help future readers.

    – some_coder
    5 hours ago














22












22








22







You need to change the way you think. First, understand compounding. Not just intellectually, but viscerally. You need to develop an aversion to spending borrowed money.



A debt with 22% APR doubles every 38 months.



Every dollar you pay down your debt, cuts the total length of time you will be paying that horrible interest. Every $1 you spend now increases your time to get out of debt, and costs you around $3.70 if it takes you 6 years to get debt free.



Take a look at graphs of compounding interest. They're designed to excite you about saving, but debt grows exponentially too. That should scare you. Set one of those graphs in front of you until it does.



Then, use your intellectual knowledge of compounding to change your real-world behavior. Learn to turn price tags into what it will actually cost you, by multiplying by 3.70. That $150 favor you do paying car insurance for a friend actually costs you $555. Every month. You are out $750 for your relatives in your home country to receive $200. The $2 cup of coffee costs you $8 (don't forget sales tax!). The $7 lunch costs you $28. Splitting a night out with your friends is costing them $150 each, but you're out $550!



But lucky for you, you've got a place to put money where you don't get back only 1/3.7 of its value -- your debts. They work in reverse. Where lunch will have you paying $28 for a meal worth $7, every extra $10 you throw at your credit card debt puts $37 into future-you's pocket.



Start seeing the things you spend money on with their true, just-for-you price tags, and you'll find saying no to waste and eating pasta at home at lot more compelling.



The best part is that if you do change your thinking like this, D Stanley's estimate that you could be out of $66k debt in under 2 years, and back to living life normally, paying for things at the same price everyone else gets, is 100% possible.






share|improve this answer













You need to change the way you think. First, understand compounding. Not just intellectually, but viscerally. You need to develop an aversion to spending borrowed money.



A debt with 22% APR doubles every 38 months.



Every dollar you pay down your debt, cuts the total length of time you will be paying that horrible interest. Every $1 you spend now increases your time to get out of debt, and costs you around $3.70 if it takes you 6 years to get debt free.



Take a look at graphs of compounding interest. They're designed to excite you about saving, but debt grows exponentially too. That should scare you. Set one of those graphs in front of you until it does.



Then, use your intellectual knowledge of compounding to change your real-world behavior. Learn to turn price tags into what it will actually cost you, by multiplying by 3.70. That $150 favor you do paying car insurance for a friend actually costs you $555. Every month. You are out $750 for your relatives in your home country to receive $200. The $2 cup of coffee costs you $8 (don't forget sales tax!). The $7 lunch costs you $28. Splitting a night out with your friends is costing them $150 each, but you're out $550!



But lucky for you, you've got a place to put money where you don't get back only 1/3.7 of its value -- your debts. They work in reverse. Where lunch will have you paying $28 for a meal worth $7, every extra $10 you throw at your credit card debt puts $37 into future-you's pocket.



Start seeing the things you spend money on with their true, just-for-you price tags, and you'll find saying no to waste and eating pasta at home at lot more compelling.



The best part is that if you do change your thinking like this, D Stanley's estimate that you could be out of $66k debt in under 2 years, and back to living life normally, paying for things at the same price everyone else gets, is 100% possible.







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  • 1





    Wow, the part about multiplying by 3.7 is really interesting. Is this a common piece of advice? I've never heard it before

    – Jon
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @Jon: There's nothing special about 3.7, it's just 22% APR compounded monthly for 72 months. You can substitute any APR and duration. If you have no debt except subsidized student loans, your number might be 1.3 or so. If OP had missed a payment before asking here, and therefore was hit with penalty APR, it could be 8.5 (based on 30.99% APR and 7 years).

    – Ben Voigt
    8 hours ago













  • @Jon: The one place you might have seen the multiplier in effect before, is if you take a look at a credit card statement where it says "if you make only minimum payments, it'll take you X years and you'll pay Y in total... if you make 50% larger payments, it'll take you X2 years and you'll pay Z in total". I expect that right now OP's number for Z is somewhere over 3 times his "current balance" (at that doesn't account for the fact every new dollar is effectively paid on the tail end, so it compounds more interest than any other) and Y is simply insane.

    – Ben Voigt
    8 hours ago






  • 10





    +1 because you showed how much money a $8 coffey will cost you in 7 years. Its sometimes helpful to see things this way. May i ask you if you could improve your answer by adding the formular to get to the 3.7 factor? It could also help future readers.

    – some_coder
    5 hours ago














  • 1





    Wow, the part about multiplying by 3.7 is really interesting. Is this a common piece of advice? I've never heard it before

    – Jon
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @Jon: There's nothing special about 3.7, it's just 22% APR compounded monthly for 72 months. You can substitute any APR and duration. If you have no debt except subsidized student loans, your number might be 1.3 or so. If OP had missed a payment before asking here, and therefore was hit with penalty APR, it could be 8.5 (based on 30.99% APR and 7 years).

    – Ben Voigt
    8 hours ago













  • @Jon: The one place you might have seen the multiplier in effect before, is if you take a look at a credit card statement where it says "if you make only minimum payments, it'll take you X years and you'll pay Y in total... if you make 50% larger payments, it'll take you X2 years and you'll pay Z in total". I expect that right now OP's number for Z is somewhere over 3 times his "current balance" (at that doesn't account for the fact every new dollar is effectively paid on the tail end, so it compounds more interest than any other) and Y is simply insane.

    – Ben Voigt
    8 hours ago






  • 10





    +1 because you showed how much money a $8 coffey will cost you in 7 years. Its sometimes helpful to see things this way. May i ask you if you could improve your answer by adding the formular to get to the 3.7 factor? It could also help future readers.

    – some_coder
    5 hours ago








1




1





Wow, the part about multiplying by 3.7 is really interesting. Is this a common piece of advice? I've never heard it before

– Jon
8 hours ago





Wow, the part about multiplying by 3.7 is really interesting. Is this a common piece of advice? I've never heard it before

– Jon
8 hours ago




1




1





@Jon: There's nothing special about 3.7, it's just 22% APR compounded monthly for 72 months. You can substitute any APR and duration. If you have no debt except subsidized student loans, your number might be 1.3 or so. If OP had missed a payment before asking here, and therefore was hit with penalty APR, it could be 8.5 (based on 30.99% APR and 7 years).

– Ben Voigt
8 hours ago







@Jon: There's nothing special about 3.7, it's just 22% APR compounded monthly for 72 months. You can substitute any APR and duration. If you have no debt except subsidized student loans, your number might be 1.3 or so. If OP had missed a payment before asking here, and therefore was hit with penalty APR, it could be 8.5 (based on 30.99% APR and 7 years).

– Ben Voigt
8 hours ago















@Jon: The one place you might have seen the multiplier in effect before, is if you take a look at a credit card statement where it says "if you make only minimum payments, it'll take you X years and you'll pay Y in total... if you make 50% larger payments, it'll take you X2 years and you'll pay Z in total". I expect that right now OP's number for Z is somewhere over 3 times his "current balance" (at that doesn't account for the fact every new dollar is effectively paid on the tail end, so it compounds more interest than any other) and Y is simply insane.

– Ben Voigt
8 hours ago





@Jon: The one place you might have seen the multiplier in effect before, is if you take a look at a credit card statement where it says "if you make only minimum payments, it'll take you X years and you'll pay Y in total... if you make 50% larger payments, it'll take you X2 years and you'll pay Z in total". I expect that right now OP's number for Z is somewhere over 3 times his "current balance" (at that doesn't account for the fact every new dollar is effectively paid on the tail end, so it compounds more interest than any other) and Y is simply insane.

– Ben Voigt
8 hours ago




10




10





+1 because you showed how much money a $8 coffey will cost you in 7 years. Its sometimes helpful to see things this way. May i ask you if you could improve your answer by adding the formular to get to the 3.7 factor? It could also help future readers.

– some_coder
5 hours ago





+1 because you showed how much money a $8 coffey will cost you in 7 years. Its sometimes helpful to see things this way. May i ask you if you could improve your answer by adding the formular to get to the 3.7 factor? It could also help future readers.

– some_coder
5 hours ago


















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