IGBT transistor with auxiliary emitterControlling a current with another - home-made alternatives to the...

How should I handle players who ignore the session zero agreement?

What is the difference between rolling more dice versus fewer dice?

Graph with overlapping labels

Intern applicant asking for compensation equivalent to that of permanent employee

Why was Lupin comfortable with saying Voldemort's name?

What are career options for big-picture thinkers with no experience?

How to prevent users from executing commands through browser URL

Is a new Boolean field better than a null reference when a value can be meaningfully absent?

Making him into a bully (how to show mild violence)

Dilemma of explaining to interviewer that he is the reason for declining second interview

What is the purpose of easy combat scenarios that don't need resource expenditure?

Quickly creating a sparse array

Story about a person invited to join council of intellects

Publishing research using outdated methods

What's a good word to describe a public place that looks like it wouldn't be rough?

Why zero tolerance on nudity in space?

SET NOCOUNT Error in handling SQL call after upgrade

Is it possible to grant users sftp access without shell access? If yes, how is it implemented?

What are "industrial chops"?

How does Leonard in "Memento" remember reading and writing?

What does it mean for a caliber to be flat shooting?

Is using an 'empty' metaphor considered bad style?

Can a person refuse a presidential pardon?

Early credit roll before the end of the film



IGBT transistor with auxiliary emitter


Controlling a current with another - home-made alternatives to the transistor?Current source with IGBTSynchronous rectification in IGBTHigh side IGBT for negative voltagesUsing a PNP transistor as a switch connected from a 74154 then out to stepper motorsTransistor use - Basic fan speed controllerHigh side N channel gate driverIc-Vge IGBT CurveBipolar transistor. Unknown graphsWhat causes random ringing in my inverter?













2












$begingroup$


Recently I discovered, that some IGBT transistors in IGBT modules have the second pin for an emitter, called auxiliary emitter.



enter image description here



In the picture above 2nd and 4th pins are auxiliary emitters. This is from the datasheet to FS100R17N3E4 module.



However, I did not find any information about what are these pins used for, except that IGBT gate driver is connected to both 1-2 and 3-4 pins, but I do not understand why.



Could someone please recommend any literature on this problem? I would like to have a strong understanding of IGBT transistors and their drivers.

Is there any difference between 2nd and 27, 28, 29 pins, since they are at the same potential?










share|improve this question







New contributor




litvinik is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$

















    2












    $begingroup$


    Recently I discovered, that some IGBT transistors in IGBT modules have the second pin for an emitter, called auxiliary emitter.



    enter image description here



    In the picture above 2nd and 4th pins are auxiliary emitters. This is from the datasheet to FS100R17N3E4 module.



    However, I did not find any information about what are these pins used for, except that IGBT gate driver is connected to both 1-2 and 3-4 pins, but I do not understand why.



    Could someone please recommend any literature on this problem? I would like to have a strong understanding of IGBT transistors and their drivers.

    Is there any difference between 2nd and 27, 28, 29 pins, since they are at the same potential?










    share|improve this question







    New contributor




    litvinik is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
    Check out our Code of Conduct.







    $endgroup$















      2












      2








      2





      $begingroup$


      Recently I discovered, that some IGBT transistors in IGBT modules have the second pin for an emitter, called auxiliary emitter.



      enter image description here



      In the picture above 2nd and 4th pins are auxiliary emitters. This is from the datasheet to FS100R17N3E4 module.



      However, I did not find any information about what are these pins used for, except that IGBT gate driver is connected to both 1-2 and 3-4 pins, but I do not understand why.



      Could someone please recommend any literature on this problem? I would like to have a strong understanding of IGBT transistors and their drivers.

      Is there any difference between 2nd and 27, 28, 29 pins, since they are at the same potential?










      share|improve this question







      New contributor




      litvinik is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.







      $endgroup$




      Recently I discovered, that some IGBT transistors in IGBT modules have the second pin for an emitter, called auxiliary emitter.



      enter image description here



      In the picture above 2nd and 4th pins are auxiliary emitters. This is from the datasheet to FS100R17N3E4 module.



      However, I did not find any information about what are these pins used for, except that IGBT gate driver is connected to both 1-2 and 3-4 pins, but I do not understand why.



      Could someone please recommend any literature on this problem? I would like to have a strong understanding of IGBT transistors and their drivers.

      Is there any difference between 2nd and 27, 28, 29 pins, since they are at the same potential?







      transistors bjt power-electronics gate-driving igbt






      share|improve this question







      New contributor




      litvinik is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.











      share|improve this question







      New contributor




      litvinik is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.









      share|improve this question




      share|improve this question






      New contributor




      litvinik is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.









      asked 56 mins ago









      litviniklitvinik

      585




      585




      New contributor




      litvinik is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.





      New contributor





      litvinik is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.






      litvinik is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.






















          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          4












          $begingroup$

          To measure the voltage at the junction without the lead voltage drop.



          This is used so that the gate voltage can better be controlled.



          Since IGB can have pretty high current, even a small lead resistance can cause significant voltage drop, you can make sure to drive the IGBT at its maximum switching capacity, without the risk of destroying it by having a voltage on that gate that is too high.



          They are called Kelvin point, like on this device: datasheet.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            As I understand, measuring emitter voltage helps us in setting the Vge voltage to turn on-off IGBT, right?
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            46 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Yes, since IGBT can have pretty high current, even a small lead resistance can have a significant voltage drop. With advanced control you can make sure you apply the maximum gate voltage to switch properly without risking to destroy it.
            $endgroup$
            – Damien
            41 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            Thank you so much! You helped me to understand the functionality of IGBT module
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            38 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Welcome, I'd like to add as well that since it's a module connected with leads, you may have long leads and thus even increasing this effect.
            $endgroup$
            – Damien
            36 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            I remembered, that we studied the four-wire measuring, so I guess it is the same situation here with IGBTs
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            34 mins ago



















          4












          $begingroup$

          These are used for measurement purpse and driver reference. Due to the high current and high transients you can have already quite noticeable voltage difference between the auxilliary emitter and the power emitter.






          share|improve this answer









          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            So auxiliary emitter is taken as the "real" emitter of IGBT, because power emitter pin has different potential due to the high currents, voltages and the resistance of the wire?
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            44 mins ago








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            It's taken as reference point for measurement and gate control, don't know if it's right to call it "real" emitter.
            $endgroup$
            – Humpawumpa
            42 mins ago













          Your Answer





          StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
          return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
          StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
          StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["\$", "\$"]]);
          });
          });
          }, "mathjax-editing");

          StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
          return StackExchange.using("schematics", function () {
          StackExchange.schematics.init();
          });
          }, "cicuitlab");

          StackExchange.ready(function() {
          var channelOptions = {
          tags: "".split(" "),
          id: "135"
          };
          initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

          StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
          // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
          if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
          StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
          createEditor();
          });
          }
          else {
          createEditor();
          }
          });

          function createEditor() {
          StackExchange.prepareEditor({
          heartbeatType: 'answer',
          autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
          convertImagesToLinks: false,
          noModals: true,
          showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
          reputationToPostImages: null,
          bindNavPrevention: true,
          postfix: "",
          imageUploader: {
          brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
          contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
          allowUrls: true
          },
          onDemand: true,
          discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
          ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
          });


          }
          });






          litvinik is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










          draft saved

          draft discarded


















          StackExchange.ready(
          function () {
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2felectronics.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f424838%2figbt-transistor-with-auxiliary-emitter%23new-answer', 'question_page');
          }
          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown

























          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes








          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes









          active

          oldest

          votes






          active

          oldest

          votes









          4












          $begingroup$

          To measure the voltage at the junction without the lead voltage drop.



          This is used so that the gate voltage can better be controlled.



          Since IGB can have pretty high current, even a small lead resistance can cause significant voltage drop, you can make sure to drive the IGBT at its maximum switching capacity, without the risk of destroying it by having a voltage on that gate that is too high.



          They are called Kelvin point, like on this device: datasheet.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            As I understand, measuring emitter voltage helps us in setting the Vge voltage to turn on-off IGBT, right?
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            46 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Yes, since IGBT can have pretty high current, even a small lead resistance can have a significant voltage drop. With advanced control you can make sure you apply the maximum gate voltage to switch properly without risking to destroy it.
            $endgroup$
            – Damien
            41 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            Thank you so much! You helped me to understand the functionality of IGBT module
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            38 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Welcome, I'd like to add as well that since it's a module connected with leads, you may have long leads and thus even increasing this effect.
            $endgroup$
            – Damien
            36 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            I remembered, that we studied the four-wire measuring, so I guess it is the same situation here with IGBTs
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            34 mins ago
















          4












          $begingroup$

          To measure the voltage at the junction without the lead voltage drop.



          This is used so that the gate voltage can better be controlled.



          Since IGB can have pretty high current, even a small lead resistance can cause significant voltage drop, you can make sure to drive the IGBT at its maximum switching capacity, without the risk of destroying it by having a voltage on that gate that is too high.



          They are called Kelvin point, like on this device: datasheet.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            As I understand, measuring emitter voltage helps us in setting the Vge voltage to turn on-off IGBT, right?
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            46 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Yes, since IGBT can have pretty high current, even a small lead resistance can have a significant voltage drop. With advanced control you can make sure you apply the maximum gate voltage to switch properly without risking to destroy it.
            $endgroup$
            – Damien
            41 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            Thank you so much! You helped me to understand the functionality of IGBT module
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            38 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Welcome, I'd like to add as well that since it's a module connected with leads, you may have long leads and thus even increasing this effect.
            $endgroup$
            – Damien
            36 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            I remembered, that we studied the four-wire measuring, so I guess it is the same situation here with IGBTs
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            34 mins ago














          4












          4








          4





          $begingroup$

          To measure the voltage at the junction without the lead voltage drop.



          This is used so that the gate voltage can better be controlled.



          Since IGB can have pretty high current, even a small lead resistance can cause significant voltage drop, you can make sure to drive the IGBT at its maximum switching capacity, without the risk of destroying it by having a voltage on that gate that is too high.



          They are called Kelvin point, like on this device: datasheet.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$



          To measure the voltage at the junction without the lead voltage drop.



          This is used so that the gate voltage can better be controlled.



          Since IGB can have pretty high current, even a small lead resistance can cause significant voltage drop, you can make sure to drive the IGBT at its maximum switching capacity, without the risk of destroying it by having a voltage on that gate that is too high.



          They are called Kelvin point, like on this device: datasheet.







          share|improve this answer














          share|improve this answer



          share|improve this answer








          edited 42 mins ago

























          answered 48 mins ago









          DamienDamien

          2,4561315




          2,4561315












          • $begingroup$
            As I understand, measuring emitter voltage helps us in setting the Vge voltage to turn on-off IGBT, right?
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            46 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Yes, since IGBT can have pretty high current, even a small lead resistance can have a significant voltage drop. With advanced control you can make sure you apply the maximum gate voltage to switch properly without risking to destroy it.
            $endgroup$
            – Damien
            41 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            Thank you so much! You helped me to understand the functionality of IGBT module
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            38 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Welcome, I'd like to add as well that since it's a module connected with leads, you may have long leads and thus even increasing this effect.
            $endgroup$
            – Damien
            36 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            I remembered, that we studied the four-wire measuring, so I guess it is the same situation here with IGBTs
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            34 mins ago


















          • $begingroup$
            As I understand, measuring emitter voltage helps us in setting the Vge voltage to turn on-off IGBT, right?
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            46 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Yes, since IGBT can have pretty high current, even a small lead resistance can have a significant voltage drop. With advanced control you can make sure you apply the maximum gate voltage to switch properly without risking to destroy it.
            $endgroup$
            – Damien
            41 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            Thank you so much! You helped me to understand the functionality of IGBT module
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            38 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Welcome, I'd like to add as well that since it's a module connected with leads, you may have long leads and thus even increasing this effect.
            $endgroup$
            – Damien
            36 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            I remembered, that we studied the four-wire measuring, so I guess it is the same situation here with IGBTs
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            34 mins ago
















          $begingroup$
          As I understand, measuring emitter voltage helps us in setting the Vge voltage to turn on-off IGBT, right?
          $endgroup$
          – litvinik
          46 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          As I understand, measuring emitter voltage helps us in setting the Vge voltage to turn on-off IGBT, right?
          $endgroup$
          – litvinik
          46 mins ago




          1




          1




          $begingroup$
          Yes, since IGBT can have pretty high current, even a small lead resistance can have a significant voltage drop. With advanced control you can make sure you apply the maximum gate voltage to switch properly without risking to destroy it.
          $endgroup$
          – Damien
          41 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          Yes, since IGBT can have pretty high current, even a small lead resistance can have a significant voltage drop. With advanced control you can make sure you apply the maximum gate voltage to switch properly without risking to destroy it.
          $endgroup$
          – Damien
          41 mins ago












          $begingroup$
          Thank you so much! You helped me to understand the functionality of IGBT module
          $endgroup$
          – litvinik
          38 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          Thank you so much! You helped me to understand the functionality of IGBT module
          $endgroup$
          – litvinik
          38 mins ago




          1




          1




          $begingroup$
          Welcome, I'd like to add as well that since it's a module connected with leads, you may have long leads and thus even increasing this effect.
          $endgroup$
          – Damien
          36 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          Welcome, I'd like to add as well that since it's a module connected with leads, you may have long leads and thus even increasing this effect.
          $endgroup$
          – Damien
          36 mins ago












          $begingroup$
          I remembered, that we studied the four-wire measuring, so I guess it is the same situation here with IGBTs
          $endgroup$
          – litvinik
          34 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          I remembered, that we studied the four-wire measuring, so I guess it is the same situation here with IGBTs
          $endgroup$
          – litvinik
          34 mins ago













          4












          $begingroup$

          These are used for measurement purpse and driver reference. Due to the high current and high transients you can have already quite noticeable voltage difference between the auxilliary emitter and the power emitter.






          share|improve this answer









          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            So auxiliary emitter is taken as the "real" emitter of IGBT, because power emitter pin has different potential due to the high currents, voltages and the resistance of the wire?
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            44 mins ago








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            It's taken as reference point for measurement and gate control, don't know if it's right to call it "real" emitter.
            $endgroup$
            – Humpawumpa
            42 mins ago


















          4












          $begingroup$

          These are used for measurement purpse and driver reference. Due to the high current and high transients you can have already quite noticeable voltage difference between the auxilliary emitter and the power emitter.






          share|improve this answer









          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            So auxiliary emitter is taken as the "real" emitter of IGBT, because power emitter pin has different potential due to the high currents, voltages and the resistance of the wire?
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            44 mins ago








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            It's taken as reference point for measurement and gate control, don't know if it's right to call it "real" emitter.
            $endgroup$
            – Humpawumpa
            42 mins ago
















          4












          4








          4





          $begingroup$

          These are used for measurement purpse and driver reference. Due to the high current and high transients you can have already quite noticeable voltage difference between the auxilliary emitter and the power emitter.






          share|improve this answer









          $endgroup$



          These are used for measurement purpse and driver reference. Due to the high current and high transients you can have already quite noticeable voltage difference between the auxilliary emitter and the power emitter.







          share|improve this answer












          share|improve this answer



          share|improve this answer










          answered 50 mins ago









          HumpawumpaHumpawumpa

          1,150214




          1,150214












          • $begingroup$
            So auxiliary emitter is taken as the "real" emitter of IGBT, because power emitter pin has different potential due to the high currents, voltages and the resistance of the wire?
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            44 mins ago








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            It's taken as reference point for measurement and gate control, don't know if it's right to call it "real" emitter.
            $endgroup$
            – Humpawumpa
            42 mins ago




















          • $begingroup$
            So auxiliary emitter is taken as the "real" emitter of IGBT, because power emitter pin has different potential due to the high currents, voltages and the resistance of the wire?
            $endgroup$
            – litvinik
            44 mins ago








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            It's taken as reference point for measurement and gate control, don't know if it's right to call it "real" emitter.
            $endgroup$
            – Humpawumpa
            42 mins ago


















          $begingroup$
          So auxiliary emitter is taken as the "real" emitter of IGBT, because power emitter pin has different potential due to the high currents, voltages and the resistance of the wire?
          $endgroup$
          – litvinik
          44 mins ago






          $begingroup$
          So auxiliary emitter is taken as the "real" emitter of IGBT, because power emitter pin has different potential due to the high currents, voltages and the resistance of the wire?
          $endgroup$
          – litvinik
          44 mins ago






          1




          1




          $begingroup$
          It's taken as reference point for measurement and gate control, don't know if it's right to call it "real" emitter.
          $endgroup$
          – Humpawumpa
          42 mins ago






          $begingroup$
          It's taken as reference point for measurement and gate control, don't know if it's right to call it "real" emitter.
          $endgroup$
          – Humpawumpa
          42 mins ago












          litvinik is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










          draft saved

          draft discarded


















          litvinik is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.













          litvinik is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.












          litvinik is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
















          Thanks for contributing an answer to Electrical Engineering Stack Exchange!


          • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

          But avoid



          • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

          • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


          Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


          To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




          draft saved


          draft discarded














          StackExchange.ready(
          function () {
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2felectronics.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f424838%2figbt-transistor-with-auxiliary-emitter%23new-answer', 'question_page');
          }
          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown





















































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown

































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown







          Popular posts from this blog

          Benedict Cumberbatch Contingut Inicis Debut professional Premis Filmografia bàsica Premis i...

          Monticle de plataforma Contingut Est de Nord Amèrica Interpretacions Altres cultures Vegeu...

          Escacs Janus Enllaços externs Menú de navegacióEscacs JanusJanusschachBrainKing.comChessV